But you're happy to assume that they didn't bother or somehow missed someone?

OK.

I haven't picked up my pass yet I wonder if I could get my money back

Poor poor effort in the second half. Same old Hull just a different season.

We was alright for 50 minutes then simply collapsed. Difficult to take positives from this but id urge the club and the players to stop bleating on about how good we are as we may become decent but we arnt at present

On the plus side I thought that Crookes looked pretty good. Shame about his wing partner, mind.

#BE13EVE

ok positives.

defence kept leeds in check in first half, fatigue from sheer amount of tacking led to one or two of the late tries.

crookes was for the most part excellent, showed a lot of enthusiasm was very unlucky not to pull off a miracle save on hall's try

yeaman and briscoe kept their side pretty tight, yeaman in particular was good

mc donnell was steady

heremaia looked to change things up a bit when he came on

not much else i'm afraid

We were beaten by a far better team. They were faster, stronger, fitter, more aggressive in defence and looked like a team that has played together for years.
We, on the other hand looked like a team with 6 new signings, we were disjointed at times lacked any cohesion and lacked any real bite. Despite encouraging signs in pre-season Seymour was poor at best, Houghton was shocking and our forwards looked unfit. Ironically I thought Crookes and McDonnell were our two best players.

Too slow Too soft, Same old Fc

Idiot, you've got the 13 in the wrong place.

well from the way it looked, they decided to run with seymour and take a chance, after almost freezing him out in the later stages of last season. i'm happy to be proved wrong on this

Agree with all that

Can't disagree with any of that.


A tad harsh on our forwards. More than anything I thought they looked [ismall[/i compared to the Leeds forwards. But then we don't have a monster pack and we were missing a couple of our larger players.

Houghton had a poor game and Seymour was OK in patches but not as good as we desperately need him to be.

Beaten by a much better team (the 'World Club Champions') but hardly time to start with the 'same old Hull FC' crap.

Come back when we've played 10 games, we'll all have a much better idea then how the season is shaping up.

Agreed. Arundel looked totally out of his depth. We looked more impressive with Heremaia on - I thought Houghton was pathetic tonight and played the game in slow motion. Sure Leeds were well up on us (something I don't understand why we couldn't do to them) but Houghton was very poor and needs to get his in gear. Our second rowers looked weak and Galea had a nightmare. Tickle and Watts would seriously help and as for Ellis it'll probably be months. We lacked size and aggression and eventually it told. The warning signs were there when we were out enthused by KR - Leeds knew that and did the same and we didn't match it again.

Positives for we're, Jason Crookes looked good in an all round awful performance from the team. Showed food pace and enthusiasm to not give in.
Heremaia added another dimension when he came on.
The kit looked nice and plenty of hull fans there.

We seriously lacked a Moa out there, Galea and Arundel didn't exist.

Not that it would have changed the result, but I think we would be better off starting with Heremia at 9. He's a better and quicker passer than Houghton, who is better scooting from dummy half against a tiring defence.

How exactly do you suggest anyone proves it one way or the other?

The club line is that we simply ran out of possible targets of the required standard. This is just as likely as your theory - more so given the dearth of decent halfbacks (look at who Wigan have signed FFS) and our proven willingness to pay a fee if necessary.

Its not quite tear up your pass time but it was a very disappointing display.

I'm willing to put the performance of the halfs down to it being early days in their partnership, however I dont see what Galea brings to the table and Arundels defence looks worrying to say the least. Our pack just got rolled, there was alot of talk in commentary about our poor kicking game, but in reality the forwards bever got us on the front foot and I actually thought Holdsworth made ok of a bad situation. We badly need Watts and Tickle back and I really hope Ellis isnt out for long.

Mid table finish??

Our forwards will certainly be better when the pitches get faster, the pitch tonight seemed to move under foot.

It's just all a bit deflating really, it's by far the best squad we've assembled in a fair few years and you look forward with optimism and see a capitulation reminiscent of the Agar era. It's ridiculous to write off the season on the back of one result but there were worryingly familiar signs.

Oh well, Bradford next...

We could well lose the 1st 4 games so after 10 we'll be well up poop creek

I see the predictable twittergasm has started already. Samaritans had better have plenty of staff on tonight.

You've got no chance.

I do and I have for more seasons than I can remember but like lots of clubs supporters its hard to do some times