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| Quote ="Kosh"Because it pi$$es me off when people make this mistake all the time. It's not exactly rocket science, is it?
I know exactly what he said. What part of those comments led you to believe that we'd be after the players you named?'"
Thankyou Mr Moderator, I'll try to be careful, next time I make a mistake - shall I?
I actually thought his surname ended in a 'S'
Pearson also stated in the interview,"Everyone knows who the quality halfbacks in SL are,there are 4 on the list,and we will get 2 of them.it was quite clear , that Seymour's position was/is in doubt.
What is your interpretation of Pearson's interview regarding the halfback situation?
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"The point here though is that we don't know because our recruitment is not finished yet.
What we do know, since AP bought our club is:
We have a better coach who gets more out of a squad he by and large inherited.
We've had our first play-off win since 2007
There's been investment in youth facilities
We have had Lineham, Crooks, Bowden and Green step up this year and look good, vs zero debuts last year
We've brought in Gareth Ellis, a player every single SL club wanted
We've already strengthened in the halves with Holdsworth
It sounds like AP has overstated the quality overall we're bringing in, but I don't believe this was deliberate deception, more like over-confidence in a market he's still learning about. We tried to get Chase. A lot. That's a good thing, surely?
Look what Gentle's achieved in the short term market. Binned off O'Carroll and Ellis to get in Watts, Pitts, McGoldrick, Russell, Foster. In a competition where the top club are ushering in Green and Smith as the best SL half back pairing, not sure there's too much for us at FC to be mithering about.'"
Wholeheartedly agree Mrs B.
I think we as fans shared AP's over-confidence that we would sign Chase, it appears the deal has hit the buffers,and now we're back to the 'old chestnut'- missing a top drawer 7.
For mine Chase would've been the final piece in the jigsaw.
So,what happens now? Keep Seymour?????
Can't see a young NRL half coming over,as they wont qualify for a work permit,unless they have a UK/EU passport.e.g.
Dane Chisholm from Wests Tigers,who allegedly has French heritage.
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| Quote ="jersey mark"I dont post on here much, just passing on info i was told by someone i know who doesn't talk crap. never heard of Jacob Miller
just been told he was a junior kangaroo and has signed for us, read what you like in to that.'"
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Re: Jacob Miller
Miller is a great talent. He needs time to grow a bit.
Roosters didn't really want to let him go but he was stuck behind Pearce/Anasta/Carney. They must be spewing. This kid will end up better than all of them. I've watched him plenty in SG and NYC and his passing game is fantastic for a young kid. Same as his decision making.
Sheens will ruin him as his only gameplan involves giving the ball to Benji.
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| It sounds like AP has overstated the quality overall we're bringing in, but I don't believe this was deliberate deception, more like over-confidence in a market he's still learning about. We tried to get Chase. A lot. That's a good thing, surely?
Look what Gentle's achieved in the short term market. Binned off O'Carroll and Ellis to get in Watts, Pitts, McGoldrick, Russell, Foster. In a competition where the top club are ushering in Green and Smith as the best SL half back pairing, not sure there's too much for us at FC to be mithering about.'"
Well said. I cannot believe some fickle fans having ago at AP. He has done wonders to our club already, brought in the biggest signing in past years in Gareth Ellis, so what, we might not get Chase, it isnt as tho AP hasnt tried, he has spent thousands probably on lawyers etc, im sure he has offered other clubs thousands for other half backs. At the end of the day if we didnt have AP running our club were would we be??? I for one applaud him for the work he has done and the vision he has for the club. Im sure he will get the right people in when he can.
At the end of the day he gets in who he and PG think can do well for the club and improve us and who are available .
We are lucky to have an owner who is trying to take us forward, so what we dont get one of the big 4 half backs, he's tried and it hasnt worked...YET ! We could have a owner who doesn't have money, who doesnt want to be a top 4 team etc
stop bloody moaning
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| Quote ="weaver93"Thankyou Mr Moderator, I'll try to be careful, next time I make a mistake - shall I?
I actually thought his surname ended in a 'S'
Pearson also stated in the interview,"Everyone knows who the quality halfbacks in SL are,there are 4 on the list,and we will get 2 of them.it was quite clear , that Seymour's position was/is in doubt.
What is your interpretation of Pearson's interview regarding the halfback situation?'"
My interpretation was - and still is - that we intended to sign two new half backs and we had a shortlist of 4 targets. Holdsworth was one of them. Chase another. No idea who the other two are, but I'm not going to make up a list of names out of thin air and then declare myself disappointed if we don't sign them.
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| It's a 3-4 year plan to get us to the top. We've done better than expected in year 1 already. The market isn't burgeoning with top quality halves and if Chase doesn't happen it's not for the want of trying. Time for some to get a grip and realise what Pearson has done for the club already instead of carping about the intricacies of recruitment. Things wont always go entirely to plan and some need to learn to live with that. The club is going forward and improving.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"It's a 3-4 year plan to get us to the top. We've done better than expected in year 1 already. The market isn't burgeoning with top quality halves and if Chase doesn't happen it's not for the want of trying. Time for some to get a grip and realise what Pearson has done for the club already instead of carping about the intricacies of recruitment. Things wont always go entirely to plan and some need to learn to live with that. The club is going forward and improving.'"
Don't disagree at all. But some of AP's quotes are naive, when he says things like 'we all know who the top 6's & 7's are and we will sign two of them' is it any wonder people expect the Dureau, Brough, Chase and Dobsons of this world?
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"It's a 3-4 year plan to get us to the top. We've done better than expected in year 1 already. The market isn't burgeoning with top quality halves and if Chase doesn't happen it's not for the want of trying. Time for some to get a grip and realise what Pearson has done for the club already instead of carping about the intricacies of recruitment. Things wont always go entirely to plan and some need to learn to live with that. The club is going forward and improving.'"
Finally, Some common sense.
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| Where are you lot getting all these stories about the Chase deal being dead?!
As for Saint Adam, I don't think I expected half as much progress as we have already made! It's a good time to be a part of the Faithful!
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| Manu plays virtually every minute of every game and is IMO a better player than ellis,I feel this is a loss for hull not a gain.!!
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| Manu plays virtually every minute of every game and is IMO a better player than ellis,I feel this is a loss for hull not a gain.!!
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| Quote ="alexwest"Manu plays virtually every minute of every game and is IMO a better player than ellis,I feel this is a loss for hull not a gain.!!'"
I've said it previously, but Ellis has and does play at a level far greater than Manu ever has.
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| Ok theoretically lets say we don't sign Chase but we will of allocated £xxxx (silly money) as his monthly/yearly wages... Where is that going if we stick with Seymour.
AP has promised greatness and I expect he will deliver, I'm not happy saying oh well at least we were in for him and we are better than expected etc.
I'm over the moon with AP, PG etc, I'm happy with the visions and direction of the club, I'm happy with the signings so far, but I as a fan, someone with my own opinions and if I am not happy about something I have every right to write it on this forum, just the same as everyone else including the "AP and PG can not do anything wrong" squad!
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| In case anyone forgets, we now have TWO quality half-backs. Holdsworth and McGoldrick. Before, we had Horne (Who is never in a million years a halfback) and Seymour who really is out of his depth. We also have Heremaia who has put in some good stints in that position too, Throw Westy in plus Nicklas as a backup and we're actually quite well off for cover!
We can afford a young, green NRL junior as a project, surely, or is everyone still captivated by Dureau, Brough and Chase who will not be at FC for the forseeable?
As Mrs B has stated, Wigan have Green and Matty Smith as halfbacks next year. Hardly a fookin' dream-team pairing, is it!
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| As good as McGoldrick has been, I don't like the idea of him being a first choice in our halves next year.
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| Chase is coming.... Simple as...... I'm offering 200/1 he doesn't
It's nailed on so chillout
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"As good as McGoldrick has been, I don't like the idea of him being a first choice in our halves next year.'"
Great player, I like him a lot but don't expect he'll be first choice in any position next year. (Not at FC anyway)
I hope we keep him, he would give great strength in depth along with Horne, Seymour, Whiting, Pitts, Green, Galea, Lineham, Crooks and Hopefully Aspinwall,
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| I'm really pleased with the signings so far and trust Gentle and AP to deliver some more. Gutted that Chase deals seems dead but the whole recruitment issues were never going to be fixed in one season. We are a million percent better off than this time last year so we should be happy.
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| If as expected Johnson, Mcdonell signs and Seymour stays. I think we have a squad capable of finishing in the top 4 (to be honest we weren't far off last year).
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Mcdonell
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Shaul
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Briscoe
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28 man squad, would expect one more signing (another young halfback?)
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| Too many Forwards in my opinion , too light in Centres and FB unless we sign a class FB
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| Quote ="Tarquin Fuego"Too many Forwards in my opinion , too light in Centres and FB unless we sign a class FB'"
At centre we have the three mentioned plus whiting and horne who could play there to a good standard.
2 good FB's and young back up player, looks Ok to me.
Halfback is still our major weakness, that combo really lacks pace.
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| I would defo 'lose' 1 forward and gain a Centre
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| [urlhttp://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/sport/sportbulls/9935536.Bradford_Bulls__Bateman_contract_talks_under_way/?ref=rss[/url
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| When is the Kevin Locke signing being announced? Didn't The Brother say he was in the bag?
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| Quote ="Kosh"Because it pi$$es me off when people make this mistake all the time. It's not exactly rocket science, is it?
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You are going to be busy then theres tons about.
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