It's not about him leaving then coming back, that much has been made abundantly clear: it's about whether he deserves a testimonial for having done so.

And i'll say the same thing again, where have i said it was all down to Radford ?

If they come back and do 10 years service they deserve a testimonial.

Before people come back and start moaning i know its from the RFL not HFC.

You haven't, but what I'm asking is why is one heavily criticised whilst the other was/is highly praised, when in their time here they offered almost exactly the same to the team? Purely in terms of what they did for Hull FC, what is so different to justify the extreme difference in how they are treated/regarded? One is labelled the epitome of everything wrong with the club for the last 5 years, the other one of the best signings we've made in the last 10.

Too say Fitz and Radford performed the same is crazy imo.

The amount off work in defence Fitz did was brilliant, not only just tacking but smart play in the line and working the man on the ground. He looked like the captain for me aswell as opposed to Radford rallying the boys behing the posts. He didn't offer much in attack for sure though, he isn't in the top 5 signings in the last 10 years.

While I don't particularly agree with most of what you've said, this is true. How anyone can say that Fitz and Radford offered the same to FC is daft, for the exact reasons you've just stated.

Well, the RFL have awarded him a testimonial based on his 300 appearances in a trophy rich career. I'd say on this basis it's deserved.
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I didn't mean they performed the same in the level of what they did, but that they offered similar roles. I said in a previous post that Fitzgibbon was more polished and fitter, as you say Fitzgibbon was much better on the floor, and his fitness meant he wasn't as easy to get round when fatigue kicked in (although we did still see it). Both he and Radford were slow, predictable plodders with the ball, but had great work ethics in defence, Fitzgibbon was just more accomplished at it. Both still gave everything they could. That's why I don't understand why one is praised with other factors taken into account (ie Agar), but the other criticised and not given the same benefit of the doubt.

As I've said before, the Captain argument is completely irrelevant.

So are the RFL going to give testimonials to every player who plays 300 games?

Would people be happy if Cooke played another 13 top flight games and was awarded a testimonial?

Thats where i see things different to you i think, in defence Radford is a bit of an old school get them on the floor n thats job done. He was a bad one for standing behind the 2 square markers ie offerering the defence line nothing and going for a rest.

I don't buy into the "he gave his all" tbh.

Chewie where will i find some info on the poker night?

But it was precisely because the players were not getting paid and the club looked like it was going bust that made Bradford's offer a lifeline that couldn't be refused.

I daresay at that moment in time with the betrayal of the owner and the dangerous shambles he'd led Hull into, very few of the players would be feeling loyalty to him. They were probably sorry for the fans but more frightened for themselves.

I really don't get all this Radford bashing. Weird.

ditto, unbeliveable. just read 5 or 6 pages of dog turd. i'm red n white through and through, but because we have no game today and because of the type of kid lee is, i'm going with my little B&W cousin.

some people are either plain greedy or stupid.

as a red and white myself i find all this a bit distasteful your team has under performed in the last few years was it all radfords fault and when he left to go to bradford who wouldnt at that time i wouldnt dream of slagging one our players off on the eve of his testimonial and to the idiot who started this thread instead of hiding behind your computer go today and tell lee to his face how you feel some how i doubt you will

As I said, I'm not knocking his decision to move on in order to further his career and maximise his salary, I'm questioning the RFL's decision to award him a testimonial for having done so.

None . cant stand his play and when he was Captain we finished bottom

So people are only entitled to express an opinion on a player if they're prepared to repeat that opinion to the player's face? What an odd concept.

there are a fair few players who have been granted testemonials in the same circumstances, stanley gene, keith senior, rob purdham to name a few. imo, anybody who plays this sport for 10 years deserves it, it's their popularity which willl determine how much they make from it.

in the case of radders, can't knock him for donating some of the proceeds to charity, well done.

whats odd about it if he feels that strongly about it it must be just me then i wouldnt say anything behind someones back that i wouldnt say to there face its easy to do that with a computer a lot harder to say it to the face you just come across as a w****r with no bottle

Top bloke is Radders and will be there to show my appreciation today.

Todays game will be a lot better than last weeks as we have had a 80min hit up.As for the testimonial,Not Lees fault he has been awarded one and all the best to him on having one but i wont be going as i cant afford it today.

I didn't realise it was the Radford jumps ship testimonial? Aren't the RFL rewarding him with a testimonial because he's made more than 300 appearances in their leagues? Seems a simple concept, really.

top posting, summed up quite well.

So you've never said anything negative about a rugby player? Ever? Or what about anyone else in the public eye? I think Mike Tyson is a disgusting specimen of humanity, but I sure as hell wouldn't tell him that.