Really, since leaving Leeds he has gone backwards!

Apart from making the international team off one good performance for Wigan in the play-offs the other year, whats he done?

Give one of the young lads a chance.

We did...and your thugs sorted him out.

Cheers.

Your post is such nonsense, it's not even worth answering your question.

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Come off it! Some love em, some hate em but check out his stats v Colbon. The Wigan fans did say we got the best winger they released that year.

Jesus christ...1st Fox now Colbon...is Colbon going to play for England like the great white dope that was Fox.

Well if you dont rate Fox then you certainly dont rate Colbon, I was just putting it into perspective how very, very average Calderwood is.

Wouldnt say he was very very average..........strange how you think a lot of our players are "average".

And why wouldn't I, have you forgot the last 2 seasons? A few of the players who I have said I believe are very average are the players who have been in the squad during that period and to keep a player like Calderwood over 3 up and coming young players I think will be a bad decision.

Why do you care, things at your club so bad that you're going to cross the floor next season?

No i havent forgot the last 2 years.....Calderwood was here last season and was 1 of our better players......seeing as i see him week in week out i can comment better than you......which 3 players we on about?...Tuffor and Lynne wont be ready yet and i would leave them for another season.....then put them both in with Briscoe and Hall in centres......a all Hull acedamy.....think we have a better history and how to handle young players coming through better than you.

Caldwerwood's stats are really nothing special and being one of your better players last season really doesn't hold up very well.

Yep, them 2 where mentioned on another thread but I cant remember the other, might have been the younger Briscoe.

Not disputing that at all, I would love to be in the situation where we could offload a player on the downslide and replace him with a talented local lad.

if your going on this seasons stats Calderwoods played 1 game compared to colbons 3 games! so you cant really compare them just yet.

I'm not, try the last 2 seasons stats!

Stats are a load of $hite...i prefer to go on what i see on the pitch....the other Briscoe is a full-back.

Colbon is mediocrity personified and FYI one wigan fan said, when he left, and I quote ...."Never has someone SO average played so many games for wigan" Yes they rated him so highly !



Who wouldn't want a winger with zero pace and zero significant qualities !!

Quote ="thehullwhitestar"Colbon is mediocrity personified'" That was my point, I bet 100% of you guys on here believe that but he is a better player than Calderwood. www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2010 www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2010 Just for the Mrs B's of you out there lol

Quote ="thehullwhitestar"Colbon is mediocrity personified'" That was my point, I bet 100% of you guys on here believe that but he is a better player than Calderwood. www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2010 www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2010 Just for the Mrs B's of you out there lol

Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"That was my point, I bet 100% of you guys on here believe that but he is a better player than Calderwood. www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2010 www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2010 Just for the Mrs B's of you out there lol'" I'm not sure exactly what you think those stats prove. Colbon makes more metres than Calderwood is about all. Calderwood has made more tackles despite fewer appearances, and has scored only two tries fewer than Colbon despite fewer appearances and playing in a team that finished 12th in SL. If you want to use stats to judge a player - which is a silly way of judging a player's overall ability anyway - these are far from clear cut.

Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"That was my point, I bet 100% of you guys on here believe that but he is a better player than Calderwood. www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2010 www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2010 Just for the Mrs B's of you out there lol'" I'm not sure exactly what you think those stats prove. Colbon makes more metres than Calderwood is about all. Calderwood has made more tackles despite fewer appearances, and has scored only two tries fewer than Colbon despite fewer appearances and playing in a team that finished 12th in SL. If you want to use stats to judge a player - which is a silly way of judging a player's overall ability anyway - these are far from clear cut.

Alot more meters and more tackle busts.

Its just that you read so much into how enthusiastic Calderwood is, yet according to the stats he hardly takes a ball in. Is it just that he threatens to look enthusiastic?
And yes, I know stats dont tell the full story.

No, they don't. So it's a little ridiculous to try to use them to prove one player is better than another. Calderwood is slightly built, hence he makes fewer metres. So, if you have a winger who you know isn't designed for getting good metres from a hit up, it would be a little bit silly to expect that winger to take a load of hit ups, wouldn't it?

As Brian Mcdermott said on Boots n All last season.. "Stats are for geeks who dont play rugby, getting dirty and working hard for your team wether you miss a tackle or not is what a team needs, everyone makes mistakes and thats when your team ethic jumps in to have the will to cover that yardage to cover that mistake"
couldnt agree more....

spot on, but Calderwoods team ethic is exemplary

It would be, yes.

So apart from his kick chase game and a bit of pace of which I dont think he is as quick as he once was, what does he add to the team thats worth a new contract?

Go back through the 8 pages of this thread to find out. I'm bored with you now.