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| Handling again , Totally shocking in dry conditions . Just not good enough if we want to be a top side . I don't know how we won that one in the second half .
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| Quote ="B0NES"Handling again , Totally shocking in dry conditions . Just not good enough if we want to be a top side . I don't know how we won that one in the second half .'"
I think you will find we scored more points than they did, just be delighted we beat leeds,
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| Quote ="UllFC"Strange set of emotions tonight, on one hand I'm delighted we came back with a great team effort to win, which got some much needed cheer and atmosphere in the stands...but on the other hand the realist in me understands it was a dead rubber for Leeds and they weren't firing on all cylinders.
We have to be one of the most frustrating sides in sport, capable of dominating a game like against Rovers and turning it on in spells like the 2nd half tonight...but the rest of time we are dire. Until we find that 3rd gear of winning a game but not going all out we won't move forward.
One area that needs to improve is our passing game, and I'd say the club needs to look at getting some specialist coaches in over the Winter. The amount of times we knock-on from a bad pass, or lose ground due to the pass hitting the floor is killing us each week.
The other thought to ponder is why when we have exciting talent like Logan & Lancaster and Ben Crooks sat in the stands are we choosing to bring over an out of favour practically unknown NRL player like Michaels? Seems a complete panic buy to me and completely at odds with the 'Club Hull' thing the club has going on.
so yes, great to hear the faithful in full voice again, and some positives to take in to pre-season...but still a long way to go before we return to the playoff places IMO'"
Totally agree..
Personally,I dont feel the Coaching team devote sufficient time to improving 'catch and pass'., judging by
the constant slow ,inaccurate and dropped passes.- week in ..week out.
Throughout Wigan's squad as an example.. they rarely drop a pass,
and their speed and accuracy are top notch.(Practice makes perfect).
Regarding a specialist coach.. .. I'd have brought in Cooke as a skills coach, according to AP... Horne has
been working with the halfbacks.
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| Not to be negative but tonight proved we would be screwed if Houghton gets injured next season because Cunningham was terrible and despite playing SL this whole year looked out of his depth.
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| I don't think you can judge Cunningham on 20 minutes, was one of Londons better players when he played regularly. Give him a pre season with the team and some game time and then we can see how he goes.
Houghton was excellent, attacking wise (assists and try's this has been his best season) gets some unfair criticism IMO.
As for the game, really poor first half, Leeds stepped up 2nd when Burrow came on, but we really played some good stuff in the last 20, thought Logan looked good, in attack and defence, he has the makings of a really good SL centre.
As I have said it was important to finish the season positively and take into next season.
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| On passing, at one point Sinfield got a shocker of a ball from dummy half, but because we weren't in his face when he did he was able to get a quick pass out, zipping it to McGuire. Two more very quick passes later Leeds had an overlap which fortunately they didn't benefit from. Bang bang bang, over the advantage line and we're back-pedalling.
Contrast that with some of ours and you see how far we have to go. Slow, high/low, on the floor, occasionally ok. Leeds defensive line speed did put pressure on passer/receiver but we don't help ourselves.
That said, the last 20 showed what we can do and any victory over Leeds is a good one.
An off season of greater optimism than last year for me but work to do.
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| Quote ="The Hollywood Frasier"Not to be negative but tonight proved we would be screwed if Houghton gets injured next season because Cunningham was terrible and despite playing SL this whole year looked out of his depth.'"
Definitely. cunningham not up to the standard we need IMO at this stage
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| Lots of positives for me, hope our new halfbacks can help with the passing game out to the wings by speeding it up.
Team spirit looks to be very good and to come back the way we did last night was really good, only a couple of season ago we got mullered by Leeds and could easily have happened tonight but we hung in.
Feeling positive after a terrible season with a thrashing of KR, a close loss against a bang in form 4th place Huddersfield and now a win against Leeds after after going 4 - 19 down. Got things to look forward too but like others have said lots of work needed to make us a top 8 side.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Definitely. cunningham not up to the standard we need IMO at this stage'"
And in fairness Houghton is not much better, he's passing is atrocious, slow and laboured yes he tackles his heart out but IMO he massively overrated
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| Quote ="B0NES"Handling again , Totally shocking in dry conditions . Just not good enough if we want to be a top side . I don't know how we won that one in the second half .'"
Very heavy dew last night - made the ball more slippery than you might imagine.
I drove home in very thick mist/fog, most unusual for this time of the year.
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| The 1st hour epitomised our season,the last 20 mins showed the potential we have. A great result all the same.
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| Quote ="ccs"Very heavy dew last night - made the ball more slippery than you might imagine.
I drove home in very thick mist/fog, most unusual for this time of the year.'"
It was weird wasn't it. If you looked up at the lights the dew looked like rain. So you can excuse some of the handling but the passing was still shocking.I hope the off-season features hundreds of hours of passing drills
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| The sprinklers were on before the game and with the long grass holding the water it made for difficult handling.Wonder if leeds fans are wanting their international players who dropped the ball even more then we did have better coaching on passing?never heard such drivel.It was clear that handling was difficult for both sides.There were many positives last night yet some cannot help having a dig at players.Houghton had a really decent game last nigh worked his butt of all year yet still gets called?
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| Quote ="hokeydokey"The sprinklers were on before the game and with the long grass holding the water it made for difficult handling.Wonder if leeds fans are wanting their international players who dropped the ball even more then we did have better coaching on passing?never heard such drivel.It was clear that handling was difficult for both sides.There were many positives last night yet some cannot help having a dig at players.Houghton had a really decent game last nigh worked his butt of all year yet still gets called?'"
my comments about passing aren't just based on last nights game, we've been woeful at it for a long time now. And I don't think anyone in this thread is 'having a dig' at the players, just being realistic and acknowledging that if we were playing a team that had something to play for our mistakes would have been punished.
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| Quote ="weaver93"Totally agree..
Personally,I dont feel the Coaching team devote sufficient time to improving 'catch and pass'., judging by
the constant slow ,inaccurate and dropped passes.- week in ..week out.
Throughout Wigan's squad as an example.. they rarely drop a pass,
and their speed and accuracy are top notch.(Practice makes perfect).
Regarding a specialist coach.. .. I'd have brought in Cooke as a skills coach, according to AP... Horne has
been working with the halfbacks.'"
Yet i commented after watching Gentle's first open training session at YPI that they seemed to be doing a lot of basic catching and passing drills and the usual suspects came on here saying that if they can't already do the basics they shouldn't be professionals.
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| I don't think extra coaching will help, some players have probably been that good with their feet as kids that they've not had the skill set coached into them when needed.
It's so slow from us because we also seem to need to pass to every single player down the line. The ball is never fired out more than 10 yards from dummy half.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Definitely. cunningham not up to the standard we need IMO at this stage'"
Pearson said last night that if we do introduce the 2 refs system we may look to do something with Rankin at 9.
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| Quote ="Doncar"I think you will find we scored more points than they did, just be delighted we beat leeds,'"
Well done , You can count . Always sweet to beat Leeds but lets not get away for over an hour , We were terrible .
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| Quote ="UllFC"just being realistic and acknowledging that if we were playing a team that had something to play for our mistakes would have been punished.'"
How do you know this fictitious team wouldn't have struggled in the conditions as well ? Did Leeds' players drop the ball deliberately simply because 'they had nothing to play for' ? Ridiculous.
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| a win is a win, it's been another too little too late season
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| Quote ="*1865*"I don't think extra coaching will help, some players have probably been that good with their feet as kids that they've not had the skill set coached into them when needed.
It's so slow from us because we also seem to need to pass to every single player down the line. The ball is never fired out more than 10 yards from dummy half.'"
remember Wally Lewis.Now there was a guy who could pass a ball.
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| Quote ="bonaire"remember Wally Lewis.Now there was a guy who could pass a ball.'"
as could Cookey, but it is sadly lacking from FC in recent years, Hasler was a master at the diving pass off the floor, Entat, Mackay too. We look stale in attack on occasions.
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| Quote ="bonaire"remember Wally Lewis.Now there was a guy who could pass a ball.'"
Put a great pass out when Sterling made his debut at Wakey......right into Steve Evans hands..oh sorry,do you know who they are
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| Quote ="fc baldy"Put a great pass out when Sterling made his debut at Wakey......right into Steve Evans hands..oh sorry,do you know who they are'"
not only know who they are but have met them both.
met Steve Evans on many occasions when he was working in Hull.
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| Quote ="bonaire"not only know who they are but have met them both.
met Steve Evans on many occasions when he was working in Hull.'"
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