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| Every thing he has done is for publicity , seems to thrieve on it ,
We should all push for an audit of both the SMC and Hull City .
To find out if the left hands feeding the right or the right the left .
Don't know how can go after council with a million plus in hand at the Smc
Can't he be declared insane with we don't like Hull Fair when it attracks 12 million visitors think more than use what he beleaves is his stadium.
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| If Allam (or Allam in the guise of the SMC) brings a claim against the council or FC he will have to disclose to his opponents and the court all sorts of documents relevant to the claim including financial ones. Commercial sensitivity or confidentiality is no excuse to avoid disclosure so it could get interesting. If he does go down this route I hope the council and AP have the b*lls to stand up to him because that's the only way to deal with a bully.
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| @HDMsport: Also in today's Mail - statement from SMC reveals cost of displaying memorabilia at KC Stadium for #HullFC and #HCAFC is just over £10,000
@HDMsport: SMC statement also reveals that 'rugby related costs' of £280,000 last year from operations at stadium - in total losses of £409,000
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"@HDMsport: Also in today's Mail - statement from SMC reveals cost of displaying memorabilia at KC Stadium for #HullFC and #HCAFC is just over £10,000
@HDMsport: SMC statement also reveals that 'rugby related costs' of £280,000 last year from operations at stadium - in total losses of £409,000'"
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SMC statement says #HullFC were given 'first option' last year on display sites in KC Stadium - and for front of West Stand - but declined.
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| Quote ="Mick Cranes Sidestep"Not every sports club has a positive experience. Ask Hull Ionians - the generous gift to them was attached to a request for the deeds to Brantingham Park - which I believe was declined.'"
Yeah he said he would take them over and let them play at the KC but was repeatedly told he couldn't have the land as it was not theirs to sell. In the final meeting he said what's in it for me. He was told again he couldn't have the land, at this point he walked away
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| Quote ="oud3pstander"Every thing he has done is for publicity , seems to thrieve on it ,
We should all push for an audit of both the SMC and Hull City .
To find out if the left hands feeding the right or the right the left .
Don't know how can go after council with a million plus in hand at the Smc
Can't he be declared insane with we don't like Hull Fair when it attracks 12 million visitors think more than use what he beleaves is his stadium.'"
12 million visitors? Hull Fair attracts around 1 million visitors a year. But yeah the man's loopy
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| And how many gullable people will take all that in, my guess is most of the population of Hull
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| Quote ="djlard"www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/Hull-FC-memorabilia-Stadium-Management-Company-s/story-18136881-detail/story.html#axzz2KqrsOyhT'"
HDM in the Allams pocket again.
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| The points around rates and utilities is probably fair. The mortgage point is spurious as the SMC purchase was included in the overall deal, as is the maintenance point therefore- condition of the assets and cost of remedy should have been reflected in the company purchase price. Point 2f is my favourite. The numbers are different now because we've changed how we do them.
Of course, FC have a right of reply. Oh, hang on, that confidentiality clause must only work one way.
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| Been following this story and reading these posts with bated breath. I generally take a back seat and listen intently to what goes on. This man is dangerous in the extreme. Be very careful. One or two posts had the right idea, should have gone along with The Judge`s.
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| Quote ="The wrong Messiah"Been following this story and reading these posts with bated breath. I generally take a back seat and listen intently to what goes on. This man is dangerous in the extreme. Be very careful. [uOne or two posts had the right idea, should have gone along with The Judge`s[/u.'"
You think so? Well you may not be around for long to contribute much more then.
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| Quote ="Chris28"You think so? Well you may not be around for long to contribute much more then.'"
I voiced an opinion, is that not allowed on here? Or are they only allowed if you agree with them?
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| This has now gone way beyond petty, it is a reflection of just how nasty the Allams are.
The claims made in the HDM article point once more to the need for an urgent forensic audit of the SMC's accounts. I reckon it would come in costing a damn sight less than the £500k claim against the Council
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| Quote ="The wrong Messiah"I voiced an opinion, is that not allowed on here? Or are they only allowed if you agree with them?'"
Try reading the AUP. You know, the terms and conditions of using this site that you agreed to when you signed up.
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| Read them mate, no contravention there then!
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| Quote ="cod'ead"This has now gone way beyond petty, it is a reflection of just how nasty the Allams are.
The claims made in the HDM article point once more to the need for an urgent forensic audit of the SMC's accounts. I reckon it would come in costing a damn sight less than the £500k claim against the Council'"
Going to be an interesting day, he's basically accused the council of being inept, almost to a point of criminality. I hope Geraghty and his pals have the balls for the fight, I fear they don't.
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| Well after reading the latest drivel and biased journalism in the local rag (if you can call it journalism) it confirms the thoughts I posted earlier in this thread.
The Allams are now cranking up the pressure on HCC by putting the KC Stadium into a financial mess (or making appear as though it is) in the hope it leaves the Council no option but to hand over the KC to them and they can then laud over the City they have yet again saved it. The questions that need asking by the Council to the SMC is why since the Allams tenure there is now no sponsor for the Arena, no basketball team playing out of it, why the hockey is looking like relocating etc etc etc.
The guy is a an out and out bully and the Council need to stand up strong and look at all avenues possible to remove the Allams from the SMC before they destroy the KC Stadium.
I just wish for once the local media would actually grow a set and do some proper hard investigative journalism on this guy and the actual issue rather than giving him free PR and laying down like fecking lapdogs at his feet and acting like bleeding stooges!!!
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| Not sure what to think after reading the SMC statement. Impossible to know what's true or not without hearing from the council and Hull FC.
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| Quote ="The wrong Messiah"Read them mate, no contravention there then!'"
Must have missed this one then:
1.2. Messages that are in contradiction with British law, or that promote any act that’s against British law, are prohibited on this site.
That would include posting agreement with any post that contravenes the above rule.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Not sure what to think after reading the SMC statement. Impossible to know what's true or not without hearing from the council and Hull FC.'"
The problem is that the club are effectively gagged by the terms of their lease. The SMC apparently aren't. That means we're only going to get one side of the story.
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| 'Rugby related costs.' I'd be interested to see how Hull FC supposedly rack up more of the loss than Hull City. I have a strong suspicion that the 'exceptional repairs' and grounds maintenance etc may have been split down the middle, despite City using the ground around 2/3rds more often. Just can't see how we can cause more than twice the amount of losses City do with less use of the stadium.
Also, HDM shouldn't be criticised too much for printing the statement. They ran the feature on Johnny Whiteley, they are now rightly publishing the response, and will probably also print any response they now receive to that. It's not like they've said they agree with/believe it.
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| Quote ="Kosh"The problem is that the club are effectively gagged by the terms of their lease. The SMC apparently aren't. That means we're only going to get one side of the story.'"
In which case it's hard to make an informed opinion personally. It's easy to think of the Allams being the bad guys, not saying they are not, but someof what they say could be true.
My experience of things like this is that it's usually a bit of both.
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| Could some sort of protest be organised for Hull's next home game vs Warrington?
The Whiteley masks was a good idea, or a boycot of the food & drink outlets (does that money go to the SMC or is it a separate catering company?).
10,000+ Hull fans holding up an A4 sized slogan each saying 'We want an independant SMC' (or something similar), would get peoples attention too.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"In which case it's hard to make an informed opinion personally. It's easy to think of the Allams being the bad guys, not saying they are not, but someof what they say could be true.
My experience of things like this is that it's usually a bit of both.'"
Correct - all the best lies contain an element of truth. For instance, CS makes a good point above about the 'Rugby Related Costs', as does Mrs B about the convenient change in accounting practice.
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