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| Quote ="PAUL M"
Winger is the last thing we need imo as we have Sharp, Whiting and Lyn.'"
They're not exactly fantastic tho are they. If Gleeson does stay then a class winger would bee nice. If not then a centre.
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| Get rid of Gleeson and forget it ever happened. He's been a liability for years now whoever he's played for and even if he came back then i wouldnt trust him to see the season out.
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| Quote ="Sebasteeno"Get rid of Gleeson and forget it ever happened. He's been a liability for years now whoever he's played for and even if he came back then i wouldnt trust him to see the season out.'"
Agreed. I'm more than confident that the outside back from the NRL is a centre. In fact I beleive a deal has alredy been done with an individual out there.
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| Quote ="thehullwhitestar"Totally agree Paul ! A winger would be a complete waste of salary cap and even worse if it were a quota signing.
I'm sure we have the right people moulding our 2012 squad and they'll do the right thing and more.
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I think its easy to sometimes think of the winger as the last and least important player in the team, you can almost think you can stick anyone there and get away with it (in a way we have sticking Whiting there). Look how many tries from nothing that a top quality winger like Briscoe brings. If Jordan Turner keeps improving like he has I just wonder if we would be better looking for another TOP quality winger - I just dont think Sharpe or Lynn are going to be that person and would much rather see Whiting on the bench covering numerous positions perhaps (or invevitably filing in one of the back line positions when we have injuries)
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| Quote ="M@islebugs"My guess is this is all done and dusted as Bradford were perfectly OK with him leaving as soon as Hull made the offer. Hood has already said that Hull have approached the matter in the right way which means they were happy with what was offered. The delay in announcement is to find something to sweeten the news for the Andy Lynch fan club who think he should have 20 caps.'"
Agree I also think this is a done deal.
Think the club should let us know what is actually going on with Gleeson is he staying or going
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| Quote ="jacko1"Agree I also think this is a done deal.
Think the club should let us know what is actually going on with Gleeson is he staying or going'"
If Gleeson's under the Doctor for stress related illness Hull would have to be very careful approaching him at all, particularly as there won't be a queue looking to pick his deal up.
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| Still no word on Burnett ? I know he is out of contract but would he be the depth SR we need ? What kind of year did he have at Quims ?
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| I am more inclined to give these wingers a chance under the new setup, see what hopefully a good coach can do with them.
I think a good along with Turner would be good cover for us.
I can definately see an Aussie and lets face Peter Gentle will know one that he rates as an exciting prospect even that would light up superleague and maybe not a top star but I just have a sneaky feeling that we might just get a name announced to increase our reduced season ticket prices.
My glass is always half full, in fact its brimmimg.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Doesn't solve our backrow bench spot issue though. Don't see the point in Broughton, I like him but we should be developing Sharp and Lyn.'"
Maybe i'm crazy but i like Sharp... He works hard, he's fast and as he showed on Sunday he is good one on one defensively.. He will benefit from having a decent centre partner which he's never had!! If we put him on the left he would be a quality winger!!
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| Quote ="FC Wembley 08"Maybe i'm crazy but i like Sharp... He works hard, he's fast and as he showed on Sunday he is good one on one defensively.. He will benefit from having a decent centre partner which he's never had!! If we put him on the[u left [/uhe would be a quality winger!!'"
The exact position he played well for quins,but we tried playing him on the opposite side.
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| Quote ="jimmyfivebellies"The exact position he played well for quins,but we tried playing him on the opposite side.'"
Exactly.... People can be too quick to jump on a players back...
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| Quote ="jimmyfivebellies"The exact position he played well for quins,but we tried playing him on the opposite side.'"
I said it was a mistake after his second game.
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| Quote ="FC Wembley 08"Exactly.... People can be too quick to jump on a players back...'"
I have not been impressed with Sharp I have been concerned about his defence, however I recognise he has speed and heart, and if he stays it will be a clean slate for me under a new coach (who incidentally was a defensive coach) and support the lad.
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| Quote ="jimmyfivebellies"The exact position he played well for quins,but we tried playing him on the opposite side.'"
Are you lot serious?!?!????? It doesn't matter what side he plays. If any of you have played rugby league you would know that it wouldn't effect a player too much playing on the left or right side, especially at super league level where half backs should be able to pass both ways to supply wingers with decent balls. Sharp is a decent player and did make mistakes but he should have been given more of an opportunity and more support from the t1t that is Agar.
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| Quote ="Pookie"=#0000FFI think its easy to sometimes think of the winger as the last and least important player in the team, you can almost think you can stick anyone there and get away with it (in a way we have sticking Whiting there). Look how many tries from nothing that a top quality winger like Briscoe brings. If Jordan Turner keeps improving like he has I just wonder if we would be better looking for another TOP quality winger - I just dont think Sharpe or Lynn are going to be that person and would much rather see Whiting on the bench covering numerous positions perhaps (or invevitably filing in one of the back line positions when we have injuries)'"
Because to a large extent it's true. Give me a class centre and an ok winger every time.
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| Quote ="jimmyfivebellies"The exact position he played well for quins,but we tried playing him on the opposite side.'"
What is the MAJOR difference in playing on the opposite side?
If he was a centre, then fair enough.
Harder to run in a straight line?
Harder to step?
Harder to tackle?
Harder to catch?
Harder to pass? (who to? back to your centre is right to left by the way)
Harder to put an early cross into the 6 yard box?
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"Because to a large extent it's true. Give me a class centre and an ok winger every time.'"
I tend to agree...for me a top class centre and a winger with bags of pace.
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| Quote ="jehull"Are you lot serious?!?!????? It doesn't matter what side he plays. If any of you have played rugby league you would know that it wouldn't effect a player too much playing on the left or right side, especially at super league level where half backs should be able to pass both ways to supply wingers with decent balls. Sharp is a decent player and did make mistakes but he should have been given more of an opportunity and more support from the t1t that is Agar.'"
In a positional sense of course it matters Some wingers are more comfortable on one side to the other,plus there have been numerous times when he has been left exposed to 2 or even 3 attackers,due to players like long and tickle jumping the line.He's never had a settled run in the team,playing with different centres(Whiting,Turner,Gleeson).Partnerships need time to gel,not 2/3 games.A top centre partner,and consistent defending alongside him,should see him improve dramatically.
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| Defensively, for me, all a winger needs to do, is mark his winger. If they go through the centre position then in theory that is the centre's fault.
If he can mark his winger and occasionally read a play and hit the centre then that is ok for me
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| Most teams attack better down their left side. A right winger will likely be asked more questions over time defensively than a left winger and any shortcomings will therefore be more apparent. We created miles more down our left side in attack and caused far more problems for opposition right wingers than left. Sharp will likely have had more to deal with on the right wing than he used to have on the left wing at Quins. Attack wise our right wingers have overall had fewer chances than our left wingers for donkey's years for the same reasons. We did however see a glimpse of how that can be evened up a bit with the all too brief appearance of a top class right centre in the team this season.
Would be happy for Sharp to be given further time to develop and erase the issues he has in his game under a new coach. He is fairly quick and certainly doesn't lack effort but needs lots of raw edges removing.
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| Quote ="FC Wembley 08"Maybe i'm crazy but i like Sharp... He works hard, he's fast and as he showed on Sunday he is good one on one defensively.. He will benefit from having a decent centre partner which he's never had!! If we put him on the left he would be a quality winger!!'"
Totally agree, I have high hopes for him for next season and would love to see him prove his doubter's wrong. All this talk that we need another winger is madness IMO.
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| Rangi Chase is at the KC NOW!!!!! No other info at present!!!
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| Its alright....panic over,
He's doing an appearance at the 'Tigers' Shop and this is where his sat-nav sent him
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