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| Quote ="tommyfromhull"[uI've spoken to people who genuinley believed that Benji Marshal was a target.[/u Dumb, yes, but rumours start and spread quickly, then even sometimes get to the papers. Then when they do turn out to be bulle, the club gets the flak for 'again missing out on a target'.'"
You need to choose your company with more care
Like I have mentioned I am not happy with some of the spin and I fear it has set expectations too high mine included, I think Bomber needs to be more thoughtful about what he says as all he appears to do is waffle, I agree with most AP has maybe set our expectations too high and I am sure lessons maybe learnt from that . Hopefully we have another h/back on the radar, I am very happy with AP & Gentle and impressed with what they have done with the club, but imo so far we have not recruited as strongly as I anticipated considering the players we have lost but that is just my opinion. However I still think Gentle will get us into top 4 next season. The bottom line is the club will come in for criticism on occasions and there is nothing wrong with that, fans do it because they love the club, it certainly does make us appalling fans imo.
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| Quote ="tommyfromhull"I've spoken to people who genuinley believed that Benji Marshal was a target. Dumb, yes, but rumours start and spread quickly, then even sometimes get to the papers. Then when they do turn out to be bulle, the club gets the flak for 'again missing out on a target'.'"
I've spoken to people who claim to have been abducted by Aliens, given a good screwing and fish n chips before being brought back.
Well they believed it
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| Quote ="Bet Lynch
Like I have mentioned I am not happy with some of the spin and I fear it has set expectations too high mine included, '"
What spin?
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| Quote ="TommysDad"I've spoken to people who claim to have been abducted by Aliens, given a good screwing and fish n chips before being brought back.
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I think suggesting that Aliens serve fish & chips is taking things too far
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| Quote ="Bet Lynch"icon_lol.gif
You need to choose your company with more care
Like I have mentioned I am not happy with some of the spin and I fear it has set expectations too high mine included, I think Bomber needs to be more thoughtful about what he says as all he appears to do is waffle, I agree with most AP has maybe set our expectations too high and I am sure lessons maybe learnt from that . Hopefully we have another h/back on the radar, I am very happy with AP & Gentle and impressed with what they have done with the club, but imo so far we have not recruited as strongly as I anticipated considering the players we have lost but that is just my opinion. However I still think Gentle will get us into top 4 next season. The bottom line is the club will come in for criticism on occasions and there is nothing wrong with that, fans do it because they love the club, it certainly does make us appalling fans imo.'"
Not so much company, more rugby talk with strangers in the clubhouse!
I believe AP is doing his best to get us where we all want the club to be, whether it happens sooner then later I'm confident it will happen.
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| Quote ="tommyfromhull"Not so much company, more rugby talk with strangers in the clubhouse!
[uI believe AP is doing his best to get us where we all want the club to be, whether it happens sooner then later I'm confident it will happen[/u.'"
I have never disagreed with that and still don't.
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| Quote ="Diogenes"There just aren't any top quality half backs available. It doesn't matter how much money AP is willing to spend.
Are Wire going to sell us one of theirs? Are Leeds or Saints? As Chris71 said Wigan have had to replace Finch and Leuleuai with Smith and Green.
You can forget about a top Aussie too. The days of players like Sterling and Kenny coming to Britain are long gone. No way are players at the top of their game like Marshall, Cronk, Thurston etc going to come over here due to the increase in the NRL salary cap and the exchange rate.
Chase was the only top class half back who could have been available. The club tried to sign him but has apparently failed.
We did well to get Holdsworth IMO.
We do need another half back though and I hope that the club can pull something out of the hat but I don't know where from, maybe an NRL youngster (if he can get a visa). I don't think there is anyone in the Championship who is ready to step up.
What we need for the future is to grow our own like Wigan and Saints which is why AP is right to put such emphasis on the youth set up. However for the short term I really don't know what the answer is.
I am reasonably happy with our recruitment to date but if we can sign another half back and a specialist full back I will be very happy.'"
I seem to remember AP saying we had 4 Half back targets and that we would get 2 of them?. We have one in the bag which is Holdsworth, it now looks like Chase is not comming, i wonder who the other 2 targets are? . I still think we have irons in the fire and will still end up with another top class half back.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Our Chairman has shown ambition the like of which has not been seen for years and years at Hull. The market is obviously a difficult place especially if clubs believe that we have money to splash around. The country's visa rules are a nightmare which hasn't helped. The squad for next season is looking stronger both in the pack and in the halves than the one that should have finished equal 4th this season and won a play off game. We have a top quality coach and are actively playing the best of our young players in the first team. This time next year we'll probably be looking stronger again for the following season. If we didn't get all of our targets this year then bad luck - keep working to improve and wait for top quality recruitment options when they arrive. The key point is that the ambition is there. Fretting and sniping at the Chairman and DoF when the club is on the up is just pathetic IMO.'"
Spot on. If we are left with Seymour as our halfback will be disappointed and I see no issue with feeling that way but, I don't get all the petty comments towards AP. He may have made the odd mistake but it's hardly spin and as you say at least it show ambition.
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| Quote ="PAUL M" petty comments towards AP.'"
where are these comments, I must have missed them?
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| I think a few people need to take a bit more responsibility for their own (lack of?) comprehension skills. Don't blame others for your own reading between the lines of what they actually say and coming up with nonsense.
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| Quote ="Standee"where are these comments, I must have missed them?'"
I've aired my thoughts but never slagged AP, quite the opposite but we are just moaners tho because we don't agree with some posters point of view.
Also some people can't hack debate without lowering the tone and calling names.
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| Why are people slagging off the board. Only mistake AP said was about the half backs needed improving.
They never mentioned anything regarding the targets people on ere made, People need to grow up and just take things as they come. I think we still have some signings to announce so until then just stop all the moaning and talk.bout the good things
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| Some of you lot must have a terrible time at christmas having to wait until Christmas Day to open your pressies!
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| Quote ="WIZEB"As things currently are.........
1. Horne (McDonnell to be announced)
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Not a team that'll get you in the top 4.
McDonnell, Crookes, Arundel, Seymour - all weak links.
The forwards are decent, but at the moment the backs don't have the ability to take advantage of the platform they'll lay. Right flank will look very weak with (probably) Seymour, Crookes & Arundel.
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| Quote ="Barnabus"Not a team that'll get you in the top 4.
McDonnell, Crookes, Arundel, Seymour - all weak links.
The forwards are decent, but at the moment the backs don't have the ability to take advantage of the platform they'll lay. Right flank will look very weak with (probably) Seymour, Crookes & Arundel.'"
Arundal was excellent before he got injured. Crookes scored a great hatrick against your lot at Caravan Park and if he doesn't cut the mustard Lineham comes in, both are very pacy.
Seymour's played injured most of the year and some of the criticism of him is a bit harsh. He isn't a world beater but has put in the effort while playing hurt and he may not even be here next season.
McDonnell hasn't even been announced.
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| Quote ="Barnabus"Not a team that'll get you in the top 4.
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But far superior to any you'll be able to field me old cocker.
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You need to choose your company with more care
Like I have mentioned I am not happy with some of the spin .'"
Link to that spin please
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| Quote ="steve_norton"Arundal was excellent before he got injured. Crookes scored a great hatrick against your lot at Caravan Park and if he doesn't cut the mustard Lineham comes in, both are very pacy.
Seymour's played injured most of the year and some of the criticism of him is a bit harsh. He isn't a world beater but has put in the effort while playing hurt and he may not even be here next season.
McDonnell hasn't even been announced.'"
McDonnell will be announced.
Arundel wasn't 'excellent' prior to injury.
So Crookes got a hatrick, so did Jordan Turner & Josh Griffin this season. One swallow doesn't make a Summer and all that.
Seymour doesn't have anything going for him. No kicking game, no pace, doesn't take on the line etc etc. That's why you want to get rid isn't it?
All weak links.
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| Quote ="WIZEB"But far superior to any you'll be able to field me old cocker.
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| Quote ="Barnabus"McDonnell will be announced.
Arundel wasn't 'excellent' prior to injury.
All weak links.'"
How did Arundal get selected to the England Knights then ?
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| Quote ="steve_norton"How did Arundal get selected to the England Knights then ?'"
welham was in the full england squad so lets not use mcnamara as a guide please
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| Quote ="steve_norton"How did Arundal get selected to the England Knights then ?'"
*Arundel.
Isn't Jordan Turner in the Knights squad too? Does that mean he's been 'excellent'?
Arundel isn't a poor player by any means, and was given a place in the Knights because he's young, English & had a few decent games - there was nothing excellent about his performances.
No teams are going to look at that team and pick him out as a danger man are they. They'll look at that right hand side and rub their hands together with delight.
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| Quote ="steve_norton"How did Arundal get selected to the England Knights then ?'"
Peter fox got selected for England once......
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| Quote ="Standee"where are these comments, I must have missed them?'"
Accusing AP of spin falls in that category for me. He may have made an error in what he has said about new players but it wasn't spin whatsoever.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Accusing AP of spin falls in that category for me. He may have made an error in what he has said about new players but it wasn't spin whatsoever.'"
However Paulm as we have all said today (you included) there is weeks yet to go before the start of the next season and so much can and i believe will happen in that time !!! plans change paul for us as well as AP and as those plans change I am sure as you say all things are covered with a plan b in some form or another
But spin?? never heard any spin as you say
some folk on here just need any remit to whine eh!!
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