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| Quote ="The Dentist Wilf" they can consult FC Voices as long as they like but the group like everyone else is split on this
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Why should a group that represents the fans' view independently from the club be split?
Their mandate should come from the people it represents, the fans. Maybe voices could do a survey, not at the 9's.
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| Quote ="frepneyboy"=#0080FFWhy should a group that represents the fans' view independently from the club be split?
Their mandate should come from the people it represents, the fans. Maybe voices could do a survey, not at the 9's.'"
Maybe because the fan base as a whole are split and they are a fairly representative sample?
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"Maybe because the fan base as a whole are split and they are a fairly representative sample?'"
They should not be a sample.
They should have a mandate from the fans, simple as. They should be going to the club with " X % want friday Y % want Sat and Z % want Sunday after our research"
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| Quote ="frepneyboy"Their mandate should come from the people it represents, the fans. Maybe voices could do a survey, not at the 9's.'"
They have no mandate, thy are like the mods on here, appointed by their friends/people with the same opinions.
FCVoices isn't independent of the club, it's a gesture by the previous management to have us believe they were listening, I know a number of the FCVoices members and they do a good job, but they are not voted into position by anything like a democratic process, you or I would never be entertained as members of the group, HISA died because people had the audacity to say what they thought (and have subsequently been vindicated by AP himself saying the previous lot didn't invest but took money out)
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| Quote ="frepneyboy"They should not be a sample.
They should have a mandate from the fans, simple as. They should be going to the club with " X % want friday Y % want Sat and Z % want Sunday after our research"'"
You asked why they might be split, I simply said it may well be because most fans appear to be split on the issue, so it's a likely reason.
For the research, have FC Voices got a magic book with all the names, addresses and telephone numbers of Hull FC fans to ask everybody? If not, research is always going to be of a sample.
What some just seem to be unable to get into their heads is the possibility that there may not be a majority of people who think the same as them. It seems that unless research shows the results that they want, they'd rather believe it was falsified.
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| Quote ="Standee"everyone's circumstances are different, and I appreciate that, my scenario is:
Live in Nottinghamshire, work in the West Midlands (or further South dependant on contracts), indirectly manage a team of 20 people, so taking a very early dart every other Friday is out. I can finish at 4pm, if the M42/M1/M18 are kind I can be in Hull by 7pm, straight to the game, straight home afterwards, getting in at after 11pm (again, if the roads are kind), £50 in diesel (if not more) £25 for the game (so £50 if my other half comes), £100 for 2 hours "entertainment".
Sunday we can come up, go and see my family and friends, have breakfast, meet rugby friends for a drink, leisurely walk to the game, talk to people in the ground, at full time have a few more drinks, go to my old local and see old friends, leisurely drive home, back by 8pm, still got a few hours to relax before bed. Still costs me £100 to go to the game, but my £100 buys me a whole lot more.'"
I'm in a similar scenario (170 mile round trip) but prefer Fridays, always has to be fingers crossed that the M62 is ok (ish), but unless I choose to drive home for other commitments then I make an overnight of it with family /friends with a leisurely drive back on Saturday.
TBH Fri, Sat or Sun I'd still be there regardless, but Friday is the preference
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"You asked why they might be split, I simply said it may well be because most fans appear to be split on the issue, so it's a likely reason.
For the research, have FC Voices got a magic book with all the names, addresses and telephone numbers of Hull FC fans to ask everybody? If not, research is always going to be of a sample.
What some just seem to be unable to get into their heads is the possibility that there may not be a majority of people who think the same as them. It seems that unless research shows the results that they want, they'd rather believe it was falsified.'"
Agree, there are many opinions, i just dont think Voices represent them, not even 20%
It's like this board, if your opinion doesnt fit with the CC or the big posters, the KW's rip you to bits
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| Quote ="Standee"They have no mandate, thy are like the mods on here, appointed by their friends/people with the same opinions.
FCVoices isn't independent of the club, it's a gesture by the previous management to have us believe they were listening, I know a number of the FCVoices members and they do a good job, but they are not voted into position by anything like a democratic process, you or I would never be entertained as members of the group, HISA died because people had the audacity to say what they thought (and have subsequently been vindicated by AP himself saying the previous lot didn't invest but took money out)'"
Printed and framed
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| Quote ="frepneyboy"They should not be a sample.
They should have a mandate from the fans, simple as. They should be going to the club with " X % want friday Y % want Sat and Z % want Sunday after our research"'"
A Mori poll of as little as 500 people is often used to express the views of a nation (Parliamentary Elections, etc). If FC have conducted there own poll at the 9's and elsewhere then they are probably getting a fair representation of the fans feelings. Even this Poll (117 votes so far) is clearly showing that Fridays are preferred.
End of the day AP has to increase attendances, if they stagnate next season then he may try a mix of Fri / Sun
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| They need to reduce away ticket prices now. I really don't believe £25 is a fair price when the South is £19.
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| Quote ="tommyfromhull"They need to reduce away ticket prices now. I really don't believe £25 is a fair price when the South is £19.'"
but it would be unfair to do it 3/4 of the way through the season
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| Quote ="tommyfromhull"They need to reduce away ticket prices now. I really don't believe £25 is a fair price when the South is £19.'"
No allowed to
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| Quote ="tommyfromhull"They need to reduce away ticket prices now. I really don't believe £25 is a fair price when the South is £19.'"
I'm not sure that cutting prices for away fans will greatly increase the number of away fans. The fans of some clubs just don't travel in great numbers and in these difficult times people are going to watch their team at home rather than away. Hull and Rovers are the exception.
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| Quote ="Diogenes"I'm not sure that cutting prices for away fans will greatly increase the number of away fans. The fans of some clubs just don't travel in great numbers and in these difficult times people are going to watch their team at home rather than away. Hull and Rovers are the exception.'"
It will cost us some revenue though and the bad publicity of course.
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| On the HDM website, at the bottom of the article about McGoldrick
Quote HULL have also announced they will revert to playing their home games on a Friday night for the start of the 2013 season.'"
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| Quote ="Standee"but it would be unfair to do it 3/4 of the way through the season'"
I meant for next season.
Quote ="Diogenes"I'm not sure that cutting prices for away fans will greatly increase the number of away fans. The fans of some clubs just don't travel in great numbers and in these difficult times people are going to watch their team at home rather than away. Hull and Rovers are the exception.'"
I know what you're saying, but I think it definatley puts people off. £25 is steep, I appreciate we have the best stadium in the league but it's a lot of money IMO.
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Why?
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| Quote ="tommyfromhull"I meant for next season.
I know what you're saying, but I think it definatley puts people off. £25 is steep, I appreciate we have the best stadium in the league but it's a lot of money IMO.
Why?'"
SMC user agreement, see 9 years of quotes form Kath and Rule
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| Quote ="frepneyboy"SMC user agreement, see 9 years of quotes form Kath and Rule'"
not true though
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| Quote ="Standee"not true though'"
Rule and Kath lied about a lot, I'm sure AP hinted that on this one it is the reason tickets cant be dropped
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| Quote ="frepneyboy"Rule and Kath lied about a lot, I'm sure AP hinted that on this one it is the reason tickets cant be dropped'"
so how can they offer a family ticket for £50 at the Salford game?
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"Not really. How would those that can't make it on a Sunday and want Fridays have voted?
The club are never going to please everyone, it's simply not possible. What I don't understand is why people have trouble believing the club when they say that they have been led to believe there is a preference either way. People only ever seem to see this issue from their own perspective, and think that anyone who doesn't share that view is wrong.'"
Fair point. So send an email to all season ticket holders and also advertise the survey on the webite should people want to register. That would be the fairest way.
Not trying to make a big deal out of it but had the previous regime done what the club have just done they would have got slaughtered.
I can still make Friday's it just makes life more difficult.
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| Quote ="tommyfromhull"I meant for next season.
I know what you're saying, but I think it definatley puts people off. £25 is steep, I appreciate we have the best stadium in the league but it's a lot of money IMO.
Why?'"
It is expensive but I don't believe a cut in prices will bring in a lot more away supporters.
As you say it is one of the best grounds in the league so why should away supporters only pay say £20 when we pay about that much to go to dumps like The Jungle, Odsal and Belle Vue?
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| Quote ="Standee"so how can they offer a family ticket for £50 at the Salford game?'"
We had 1 game a year discounted under the old administration.
As for the saflord ticket, how will that work with the SMC agreement?
2 Adults at £24 each, 2 kids tickets at £1 each, whats the face value of a kids ticket? £10? We have to pay 50% of the tickets face value to SMC so, we'll loose out.
Its been long known and discussed in great detail here that we have all the money form the first X tickets and the rest is 50%. (X as the figure changes all the time, depending who talks about it, I think its 100,000 in total (approx))
The agreement has not changed, AP said he was looking to get it re done. But we have had nowt since. Maybe he realised the SMC wont be moved.
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| TBH i've always thought discounted away tickets should attract more, but this might only be on sundays.
We were given 1000 half price tickets for Wigan on friday, have they all gone?
Or does it show people dont want to buy in advance?
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