Another [url=https://web5.hullcc.gov.uk/akshull/users/public/admin/kab12.pl?cmte=OSM&meet=56&arc=71Council committee minute[/url.

There's a bit at the end in red (hover over the text) which explains why the lease is not a public document.

Have City or KR have ever been out of the red?

Both FC and City had lower crowd averages in years when the SMC was making a small profit.

Try again.

First, see my reply to your similarly opined friend above.

Second - the 'gagging order' covers talking about the detail of the lease. Nothing there to stop the club warning off the fans.

You'll need to look elsewhere for your negative spin.

Surely the recent losses the SMC is now making show that the Allams cannot run the stadium correctly and so shouldnt be allowed anywhere near ownership of it?

Probably less maintenance costs due to the stadiums age at the time.

....... and are City's contributions attendance related (like the millstone round Hull FC's neck)??

Don't think so really. There is no 'trap' as such - it's been clear for a long time that the Egyptian guy wants to get his hands on the stadium. It's not a new development whatsoever and this type of nonsense that he peddles is all part and parcel of that. The issue for fans is about our representation at the shared community stadium, and in particular the display of iconic material. Hull FC could easily have made a statement asking fans to hold fire while internal negotiations were ongoing without breaching any terms of any contract whatsoever. The fact that they haven't suggests that they are more than comfortable with what the fans are doing.

The year before he took over - just 2 years ago - the SMC was making a profit and crowd averages weren't much higher. Did the stadium fall apart overnight?

Some disturbing rumours circulating on Twitter. Hope they're wrong. If true, looks like Allam has declared all-out war on FC and the Council. Not sure where this will go TBH.

Worrying.

Loosen your grip on those straws.

According to Hull FCs website. In 2010 Hull FC averaged 13,800
A big difference to last years averages of less than 12,000

I don't twitterise mate can you summarise the rumours ?

Club shop under threat due to extortionate rent demand. Other stuff going on in the background not in the public domain yet. General thrust being that he's completely lost his rag. Given the way he dealt with the last people to stand up to him it seems all too plausible.

Its all he has.

I seem to recall the suites at the KC being refurbished about 3 or 4 years ago, so the cost of that would have been borne that year. Not sure I can understand how a company can go from small profit to huge loss in a year, or how charging to have pictures on walls is going to change that.

How in any way could it be worrying to either us or the council.? I hope it all does go nuclear with the Allams as in the end it could mean only one thing

Sorry for the drift. All I am thinking is that the whole thing is staged and deliberate. No one in the right mind would take pictures of Johnny Whiteley down from the Johnny Whiteley suite.
And there lies the problem

Some disturbing rumours circulating on Twitter. Hope they're wrong. If true, looks like Allam has declared all-out war on FC and the Council. Not sure where this will go TBH.

Worrying.

Bollox, it was war from the minute he removed the pictures. Bring it on!

Oh and who cares if the shop goes, weve got one in town.

Bring it Allam!

I was using a different source and the numbers were 13,731 and 12,402 respectively.

I've supported Hull and its fans from the word go on this matter. Some things go beyond club boundaries. The treatment of our legends is one of them.

Allam can make it financially impossible for us to stay at the KC. There's enough wriggle-room in the lease agreement for him to do this. We have the right to play there and that's about it.

You'll have noticed that he's about to launch a £500,000 claim against the council. That may not sound like much but it's an indication of the way this is going right now.

Your 12,402 is out. after a quick calc it's 11,884

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Copy of the e-mail I have received from Alan Johnson

Thank you for contacting me about the situation at the KC Stadium

All I've seen on this is the report in the Hull Daily Mail on Monday 11th February. I've not been notified of this either by the Stadium Management Company or by any of the clubs that use the KC Stadium.

I'm therefore trying to get to the bottom of this and to find a solution.

Hull FC fans are bound to feel that this is a slight against their club, particularly given Johnny Whiteley's status in the city and the fact that his photographs have been removed from the Johnny Whiteley Suite.

I'll contact you again when I've made progress in my investigation and representations on this issue.

Many thanks for alerting me to this.

Yours sincerely

Alan Johnson MP

Let's hope he can at least go some way to getting a resolution.

If so, then it proves without shadow of doubt, what his true aims and objectives are. It isn’t for the good of the local community, thats for sure.

When the mask comes off, and it becomes open public knowledge, I would think that the ones who should really be worried are City and KR.

It does make you wonder if, getting rid of Person and Barmby was part of this whole takeover plan. They would have been a hindrance.