Horne needs a Cooke, Head, Smith alongside him.

I havent spit my dummy out petal I was making a point,

why have these qualities from Horne been missing ask yourself that

OPINIONS OPINIONS OPINIONS

well he hasnt has he and i doubt very much this season he will have wither so we will have to carry on as were are with DIFFERENT OPINIONS, or the lovefest as you say

Because whoever has been next to him at 7 isn't creating anything ffs!

Game as changed mate, although Mackey did do a lot of running with the ball too and left Entat to guide us round the pitch.

Mackey's big thing was he had a gob and spent 80% of the game barking out orders.

Exactly he was a leader something we are in desperate need of.

HULLMAD - So if Horne is creating stuff what is Thorman doing? Is he creating things too?

My god if you think this is creating chances god knows what you think when they arn't in your opinion.

there endeth the lesson,

Not hard is it.

Very little of any note.

Thorman is doing sweet FA the last few games from what i saw. i was led to believe he was vocal and a gobby t**t just what we needed



i have been watching Fc a long time and i know when things are crap as they are now, we havent had a decent 7 since Tony Smith lft, but we wont get one now at this stage on the season.

I agree, Horney as played 7 in all but 2 of those seasons.

and as i said previously he was asked to play at 7 when he isnt really a scrum half. he was obviously not comfortable there as a scrum half as i have known them have been vocal gobby es that lead ateam around the park.

And there we have it, two players who don't create much between them.

Thats a good reason why we play boring rugby.

FFS

and as i stated a scrum half is a vocal gobby e that leads us around the park, which i was led to believe Thorman would do.

I'm sorry but you just don't seem to understand that neither of them create anything, and that Hornes game is about running with the ball and not creating chances. Just about everyone else on this thread talking about this seems to see this barring you!

in your opinion maybe, i aint arguing with you all as you have clearly made your minds up he isnt creative and thats your OPINION< thats what a forum is for.

Glad we cleared that up..!



I know it's about opinions, it's just a shame yours is wrong..!

your opinion mate not mine.

Barring this season and the last, Horne's try assists have been around the 15 mark for a full season. Whereas the top 5 players (Try assists) every year have been averaging around 28 +.

In 2006 Lee Briers made 38 try assists for the season playing 27 games. Richard Horne made 12 playing 28 games.

Thats shocking for a so called creative player.

2005 Horne made 13 assists to Harris' 30. Again a poor showing.

Look im bored of you now. you obviously dont rate Horne I do end of discussion.