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| Quote ="cod'ead"Fact?
Anyone using that term in such a post had better be really sure of their "facts".
Any past player I haven't got a problem with but if you have any information regarding a current player taking banned substances, you'd better report them to the relevant authorities.
Basically put up or shut up'"
Yes Fact. I don't sign up to this forum balls of putting fact on everything I say, however I've seen it with my own eyes, so yes it's fact.
I've been an FC fan for over 25 years so have an affinity with the club but I know for sure, like Glees has said, it goes on and a number of players could have tested positive. I bet you if the UKAD tested every player from all clubs in one go, they'd have to cancel a few games for lack of registered players.
=#FF0000Don't even go there, please.
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| Quote ="smudgersmith"A few quick questions;
1. When was the drug added to list?
2. When did Long ask Cooper about this?
3. Did the company change ingredients?
4. How many other clubs conditioners were aware of any changes?'"
1 the previous year, but thats not really important
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4 ITS THERE JOB TO BE AWARE
Nicotine is currently on the monitoring lists, if this is banned then god help us
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| Quote ="GM1"it goes on and a number of players could have tested positive. I bet you if the UKAD tested every player from all clubs in one go, they'd have to cancel a few games for lack of registered players.
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Good point, certain drugs can only be detected within days or even hours
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| Further "comment" on Twitter. No idea what they're on about, though :
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It's about time the RFL put the blowtorch to Wigan and find out what happened with Gleesons "Release". #RugbyLeague #SuperLeague
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@LeagueFreak Wigan have got a lot to answer for in this whole mess. If the whole truth comes out they're basically ****ed.
it's a farce if you ask me, just read the inside sport piece and theres gotta be more to it than his time at Hull????!!!!!
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| and still no comment from the dentist man.
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| Gleeson's been threatening legal action hasn't he? If the claims about documentary evidence are true he could have a very strong case.
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| Quote ="frepneyboy"The only difference between 1999 and 2011 is 5000 fans and 5 league places. Reckon our debts were a similar level to boot'"
Do you even remember that far back? Lloyd was about to close the club - that's the main difference. Nobody is claiming that Kath and co did anything out of a sense of altruism, but the fact is that before the merger we were about to vanish into thin air. In no way, shape, or form are we in a worse state now.
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| Quote ="Wildmoose"Gleeson's been threatening legal action hasn't he? If the claims about documentary evidence are true he could have a very strong case.'"
Legal action against whom?
Any case he might bring against any of the parties involved would be long, complicated, expensive, and far from certain to succeed. At the end of the day he's facing the simple fact that ultimate responsibility for taking a banned substance lies with the player, so all he could look at would be trying to prove that he'd have got a lesser ban if he'd been honest from the start. And according to the UKAD report that simply isn't the case.
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| Quote ="Wildmoose"Gleeson's been threatening legal action hasn't he? If the claims about documentary evidence are true he could have a very strong case.'"
It's been said he has spoken to Max Clifford over all this,and he's like a little terrier,doesn't give in
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| Quote ="Kosh"Do you even remember that far back? Lloyd was about to close the club - that's the main difference. Nobody is claiming that Kath and co did anything out of a sense of altruism, but the fact is that before the merger we were about to vanish into thin air. In no way, shape, or form are we in a worse state now.'"
Sadly i do, i'm not a "new fan"
I remember all about the saving of us, but lets be honest, kath came here due to cicumstances, rather than choice.
TBH i should have put 2001/2 (when Richo left) instead of 1999
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| Quote ="Kosh"Legal action against whom?
Any case he might bring against any of the parties involved would be long, complicated, expensive, and far from certain to succeed. At the end of the day he's facing the simple fact that ultimate responsibility for taking a banned substance lies with the player, so all he could look at would be trying to prove that he'd have got a lesser ban if he'd been honest from the start. And according to the UKAD report that simply isn't the case.'"
Gleeson now has no career left & nothing to lose. His word vs someone else's wouldn't stand up in court, but supporting documentation can only strengthen his position. If he was going to go quietly we wouldn't have read todays story would we?
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Further "comment" on Twitter. No idea what they're on about, though
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It's about time the RFL put the blowtorch to Wigan and find out what happened with Gleesons "Release". #RugbyLeague #SuperLeague
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@LeagueFreak Wigan have got a lot to answer for in this whole mess. If the whole truth comes out they're basically ****ed.
it's a farce if you ask me, just read the inside sport piece and theres gotta be more to it than his time at Hull????!!!!!'"
I wouldn't go to LF as a source of anything, he's a disgrace and a sad prick.
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| Firstly I'd like TO THANK Mr Rule for attempting to protect our Club and players.
Secondly, Gleeson and Long =#0040FFpotentially libelous comment removed - Kosh consistantly prove to us what a pair of losers they BOTH ARE (Just read LONG's tweets )
We as a CLUB have obviously been stupid, careless, un - professional and REALLY UNLUCKY.
WE WILL UNITE......WE WILL LOCK EVERYTHING DOWN....WE WILL COME OUT STRONGER.
We only lose when were cheating, lose when were cheating........
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| You'd thank Rule? Honestly?
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| Quote ="VoiceOfReason"
=#0040FFpotentially libelous comment removed - Kosh'"
Are you sure about that?
That's just the sort of ill-informed, idiotic claim that's likely to lead to a defamation case
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| Quote ="Sheldon"You'd thank Rule? Honestly?'"
James Rule didnt goto to Longy and tell him to sell a substance to Gleeson from his 'iffy' fathers shop......
JR didn't tell thicko Gleeson "DON'T READ THE INGREDIENTS LIST" which is YOUR DUTY to do to see if banned sustances are contained.
It's ALL well and good with HINDSIGHT to say and take the view "I really shouldn't of done it that way".
I for one applaud JR in trying (yes, incorrectly using hindsight and maybe with others involved) to PROTECT our club and players.
Get OFF your HIGH HORSES everyone and see that JR is far from the SINGLE bad apple in this case.
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| Quote ="Wildmoose"Gleeson now has no career left & nothing to lose. His word vs someone else's wouldn't stand up in court, but supporting documentation can only strengthen his position. If he was going to go quietly we wouldn't have read todays story would we?'"
I understand why he might [iwant[/i to take legal action. And I understand that he may [ibelieve[/i that he has documentary evidence that would strengthen his case. But we're talking about someone who didn't understand how the anti-doping regulations worked here.
And today's story says more about his need for cash than the strength or likelihood of any possible legal action.
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| Quote ="cod'ead"Are you sure about that?'"
Betting scandal?
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| No one is suggesting Rule is the only guilty party but to suggest he should be thanked is laughable at best.
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| Quote ="VoiceOfReason"Betting scandal?'"
Care to point to any court case that led to a criminal conviction?
If I were you I'd ask a mod to remove your libelous posts post haste
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| Quote ="Sheldon"No one is suggesting Rule is the only guilty party but to suggest he should be thanked is laughable at best.'"
I'd go and shake his hands any day....Poor old Gleeson made the scapegoat....don't make me LAUGH.
JR has obviously been made the scapegoat on behalf of the old regime....he's got the longest ban and a ruined reputation. Thanks Coop's, Thanks Kath.
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| Because he messed up.
Tbh I can't believe what I'm reading.
All he had to do was tell the truth, instead it's cover up after cover up.
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| Quote ="VoiceOfReason"I'd go and shake his hands any day....Poor old Gleeson made the scapegoat....don't make me LAUGH.
JR has obviously been made the scapegoat on behalf of the old regime....he's got the longest ban and a ruined reputation. Thanks Coop's, Thanks Kath.'"
Are you his mam?
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Quote ="cod'ead"Care to point to any court case that led to a criminal conviction?
If I were you I'd ask a mod to remove your libelous posts post haste'"
Gleeson convicted drink driver:
www.wigantoday.net/sport/wigan-w ... _1_3152443
ohhh yer ....and you can read about his antics at Wigan on all kinds of forums....stop trying to be a smart .......because you are not.
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Quote ="cod'ead"Care to point to any court case that led to a criminal conviction?
If I were you I'd ask a mod to remove your libelous posts post haste'"
Gleeson convicted drink driver:
www.wigantoday.net/sport/wigan-w ... _1_3152443
ohhh yer ....and you can read about his antics at Wigan on all kinds of forums....stop trying to be a smart .......because you are not.
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