He may not be the big name that everyone's been discussing, but that is half the problem, that's all it's been a un realistic discussion with wish list names like Lyon and Gasnier, not the club! Martin is a good centre who's played that position for all his career, his stats are not great mainly due to the poor lo end clubs he's found himself with over the last few years, but put him with some good ball players and I bet we see Sharpy bag Fair few tries next season. I reckon we will bring in a relatively big name 2nd rower from oz to finish our recruitment!

The club have hardly tried to douse the flames of expectation though have they?

Players don't usually 'find themselves' with 'poor low end' clubs by accident.

Do you think that the fact that he's played for London, Wakey and Crusaders rather than Wigan, Wire and Saints is just a pure accident?

He didn't "find himself" at those clubs. That is the level of his ability and it is certainly a show of our ambition for 2012.

Not necessarily. Whilst it's not a signing I would have made, it might just be the case that Gentle intends to play Whiting in the back row and he feels that going into the season with only Turner for the centre spot would leave us short of options. If there was no one else available to sign, that is. It's not a view I subscribe to particularly, but it doesn't mean that we're aiming for 8th again either.

I like Whiting, but as a squad member for his utility value, I think if we are going to be serious contenders then we need better than Whiting for the first choice 17, but no doubt he'd still get into the 17 as the inevitable injuries occur. However, the only positions him he should play are at loose man or in the second row, but not on the wing or in the centres, backs need to be fast, he isn't.

I see what you're saying and I wouldn't subscribe to it either but whichever way I look at it, it is a very very underwhelming signing indeed.

Been good for your post count, though.

Good point !!

Every cloud eh !!

I don't imagine ever reaching 11,000 though.

A complete shambles in my opinion I would have rather stuck to what we have, owner change not the policy, too many cowboys not enough Indians springs to mind, next we will hear its not my team, no but the two pearson signings are not
going to bring the supporters back!!

But getting rid of RA will Fact that what posters on this forum are saying
(That they would get passes if RA goes ) Well he has gone

Not exactly a signing to make the heart race with excitement but not many people were overjoyed with the Domic signing and he turned out a good one and he was only from Wakefield (no offence).

Let the dust settle and look forward to an Agar free, new signings and new coach season for the right reasons instead of thinking we are some type of Manchester City money splashing club on the cusp of winning everything that moves.

It's more like the Michael Eager sign to me. Terrible !

As I said not a good signing but who says he is the deffo right centre?

He may just be the experienced cover for the backs now that we have offloaded a few stale players we have all being asking to ship out for the last three years or more.

We cannot have 13 world class starters, we haven't got a good enough accountant for that and we don't play in the west.

Just been told Rule has left today. I believe who told me but thought I better put it on the rumours site until it is confirmed.

Yeah, heard the same.

I do hope so !!!

We can't say things are not moving fast

Hardly surprising, all the hiring and firing seems to be done, no need for Rule anymore.

If AP keep this up, he will sack himself ..Like to bet the Clubs cat gone on walk about

after reading some posts on here come to the conclusion bunch of moaning bar stools people really think we were going to sign some of the names on here mentioned , tony martin is a solid centre who will be cheap for a year, after all we are not wigan or wire well not for a while so get a grip

Can't believe for a second that pearson has allowed rule to go. Everyone on here has been telling me he's brilliant at his job so I can't see any way an astute business man like pearson would get rid/let him walk

Phil B understands rule is suspended