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| Not a big fan of those big passes on kick return but a much better showing from Connor yesterday.
I'd not thought about how effective he could be on short kickoffs. He is so good in the air that he nullifies that threat almost single handedly.
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| Top of SL currently with 22 assists ahead of Lolohea (17) and Welsby (14)
Just the 5 yesterday but, of course, he "can't do it against the top teams"
Jake Truman is 7th.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Top of SL currently with 22 assists ahead of Lolohea (17) and Welsby (14)
Just the 5 yesterday but, of course, he "can't do it against the top teams"
Jake Truman is 7th.'"
Looking forward to Truemans productivity for us, would of been there to finish the Wynne break off..
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| I do love how when we beat teams one of the first things their fans seem to want to do is have a dig at Connor. Quite laughable after they've just seen him rip their team apart.
Trueman in this team would be a revelation. Connor's support play is pretty much non existent, Trueman would make up for that in spades.
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| Quote ="Rocknrolla69er"Looking forward to Truemans productivity for us, would of been there to finish the Wynne break off..'"
That was a head in hands moment definitely.
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| Connor never does it against top teams. Wigan arnt a top team there rubbish. Plus Connor is never a fullback slow can't tackle rubbish.
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| Thought he took the line on a bit more as well yesterday. So glad he plays for us.
We also said the same yesterday - Trueman playing behind our pack!
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| Quote ="hull2524"Connor never does it against top teams. Wigan arnt a top team there rubbish. Plus Connor is never a fullback slow can't tackle rubbish.'"
They’re 3rd and the favourites in the cup final, scoring great tries with quality across their 17 every week. If they aren’t a top team, who are?
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| Quote ="the cal train"They’re 3rd and the favourites in the cup final, scoring great tries with quality across their 17 every week. If they aren’t a top team, who are?'"
I think there might have been a teeny bit of sarcasm in use there....
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| Quote ="hull2524"Connor never does it against top teams. Wigan arnt a top team there rubbish. Plus Connor is never a fullback slow can't tackle rubbish.'"
You took the words right out of ..........'s mouth (insert name as appropriate.
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| Quote ="scarrie"I think there might have been a teeny bit of sarcasm in use there....'"
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| I said at the game, I am so glad he plays for us, every team in SL would want Connor in their team, you sometimes don't know what you've got till you lose it. We should celebrate Jake and enjoy every moment. What a player, we will go from strength to strength this season.
My pre-season hope of a winning home record and to make the play offs in a rebuilding season is coming to fruition, happy days. And I have to say 3pm weekend kick offs are fantastic.
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| To be fair to Jake all the talk that he never does it against the top teams is harsh for me. At FB he's never going to be a player that can single handedly beat a team as he isn't speedster like Field. Whilst he is an exceptional talent and one I'm glad we have playing for rather than against us he like many players needs others to step up too. For me when Jake doesn't appear to perform in most cases its always when the likes of 6,7 & 9 are poor and he's not alone in that.
His try assists this season show what he can do and how dangerous he is even when he only gets half decent ball, I think when the rest of the team aren't performing we all expect him to be still be able to turn a game on its head on his own as we know how good he is. One area I think he could improve is when things aren't going so well as a team he needs to learn to be more level headed, rather than letting his frustration get the better of him and then trying too hard to do it all, but that's Jake isn't it and his desire to win.
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| I'd take a slight lack of speed and ordinary defence for how good he is the opposition 20.
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| Quote ="Ellam"I'd take a slight lack of speed and ordinary defence for how good he is the opposition 20.'" He frightens teams when he gets 30 yds from the line. Mine you he frightens me sometimes with those passes lol. Still wouldn't change him.
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| Quote ="DiggerHFC"I said at the game, I am so glad he plays for us, every team in SL would want Connor in their team, you sometimes don't know what you've got till you lose it. We should celebrate Jake and enjoy every moment. What a player, we will go from strength to strength this season.
My pre-season hope of a winning home record and to make the play offs in a rebuilding season is coming to fruition, happy days. And I have to say 3pm weekend kick offs are fantastic.'"
i can think of several on here who poo pooed anything but Friday night games
Sunday still has to be the best day for me but the club have trialed Saturday afternoons now with success so i guess we will see a mixture of Saturday and Sunday matches.
Much better of course for away supporters when travelling to Hull
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| Quote ="Ellam"I'd take a slight lack of speed and ordinary defence for how good he is the opposition 20.'"
But that's the reason he won't play at full back for England
Against the aussies you need to be spot on defensively ie great last ditch tackles etc
He's good with ball in hand and sets up plenty of trys
But his lack of pace and defence is a big problem
Every time teams break our line seems to be a try these days
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| I think we are all aware now he isn't the quickest fullback. But boy he more than makes up for that. What a talent.
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| Quote ="hull2524"I think we are all aware now he isn't the quickest fullback. But boy he more than makes up for that. What a talent.'"
So let’s be very very smart and play him at 6 - then use Reynolds cash to get an explosive paced FB who is amazing at defence and feeding off Jake
how can the above not work ???
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| Quote ="Tarquin Fuego"So let’s be very very smart and play him at 6 - then use Reynolds cash to get an explosive paced FB who is amazing at defence and feeding off Jake
how can the above not work ???'" Because he won't get in those 3 on 3 situations which he is incredible at if we play him at 6.
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| If Connor had pace he'd be lighting up the NRL right now. We get to enjoy watching him play because he isn't the complete player, not in spite of.
On paper he'd make a great 6. But we've seen him play at 6 and it wasn't great. I'd rather have him as a centre than a 6 because he is devastating from there. But he wants to be a fullback and at 1 he is our greatest attacking threat since ... in a long time.
So we have who we have and now need to build a team that complents who Jake is and not who we wish he was. He is a once in a generation talent and with one or two key signings we could have a real shot at the title in the next few years.
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| Quote ="The Hollywood Frasier"Because he won't get in those 3 on 3 situations which he is incredible at if we play him at 6.'"
are you saying a 6 can’t get into 3 on 3 ?
the 6 can have his FB on the inside as a decoy whilst using his centre and winger on the outside
or the FB isn’t a decoy at all
double threat but you need a FB that is fast enough to be the decoy
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| Quote ="Tarquin Fuego"are you saying a 6 can’t get into 3 on 3 ?
the 6 can have his FB on the inside as a decoy whilst using his centre and winger on the outside
or the FB isn’t a decoy at all
double threat but you need a FB that is fast enough to be the decoy'" What I'm saying is when we get that 60/40 split of the field it's the fullback who gets into that situation. If you were to play him at 6 and have the fullback floating in and around that area you would have a 'middle' playing the role of 1st or 2nd receiver which would decrease the time that Connor would have.
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| Quote ="Thetalentboy"But that's the reason he won't play at full back for England
Against the aussies you need to be spot on defensively ie great last ditch tackles etc
He's good with ball in hand and sets up plenty of trys
But his lack of pace and defence is a big problem
Every time teams break our line seems to be a try these days'"
If I'm being truthful as long as he does it for us I'm happy, Wane will pick the usual players and England won't win again.
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| Quote ="C for Cuckoo"If Connor had pace he'd be lighting up the NRL right now. We get to enjoy watching him play because he isn't the complete player, not in spite of.
On paper he'd make a great 6. But we've seen him play at 6 and it wasn't great. I'd rather have him as a centre than a 6 because he is devastating from there. But he wants to be a fullback and at 1 he is our greatest attacking threat since ... in a long time.
So we have who we have and now need to build a team that complents who Jake is and not who we wish he was. He is a once in a generation talent and with one or two key signings we could have a real shot at the title in the next few years.'"
Connor wanted to be a six
Its Hodgson who wants him at full back
Like you i always liked him at centre.He also was always a threat collecting or knocking back high kicks to his wing but we have moved away from only having this tactic since Sneyd went.
Think Hodgson may have to look at moving Connor next season into the halves to partner Trueman and if we sign a Field/French type full back who is able to back up line breaks we wont be far away from being a very good hard to beat team.
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