just had a look at the player ratings on HDM
Obviously the ratings should be poor and they are but guess who has the lowest rating of any player with a mighty 4
The golden boy Sneyd
=#FF0000Leave out the insults, people are allowed their own opinions.
Sneyd is holding us back
Connor made mistakes but at least he tried different things.Sneyd did sweet FA

I've said all I need to say on Sneyd. Keep repeating the same stuff. But if I'm a half back, and we get nilled, I'd be embarrassed. Alan Hunte said months ago that Sneyds issue is that he doesn't play with his eyes up, he carries on with the play that has been called. Today, I counted 3 or 4 occasions where he doesn't see what the defence is going, he does his little dance and then gives the pass to a player that already has a defender on him. He is so predictable

Yes, he tried to sign him for 2019 but it didn't work out but then Radford tried again a year later and secured the signing.

Think Hunte said it pre match when we played Leeds at home.

Pinning our hopes on a marquee signing won't fix our issues.

We need some strength in depth for a start. 2x Props, 1 utility back, 1 half and a hooker. If Mau is released (which I'd do) we'll need a 2nd row too.

Bowden, Masi, Shaul, Taylor have hardly played. In Masis case not at all.

Plus the longterm injuries to Griffin, Cator and Reynolds have really tested an already thin squad.

We've lost Jones, Ellis, Kelly and Naulago going into this season and only brought Reynolds in.

I'd agree 1 marquee player doesn't fix things on the field, but it makes an impact of it and sells passes. The club needs money but may need to spend some money to make some money

Its a salary cap sport though. I'd imagine any bigger name player would be 2023.

I disagree. Put your money into your best starting team and let the youngsters make up the squad, and when the youngsters come into the team, they'll be playing with better, more consistent players, instead of the inconsistant team they're coming into now.

You can still backload contracts. The last time we finished this low was 2009, where we got off to a stormer and won our first 5 them ended up 2nd bottom, we then signed Long, Fitzgibbon and O'Meley to shift passes and from a commercial perspective it worked. The disgruntled fans aren't going to be hyped by a few squad players coming in.

Er, no. We finished 8th in 2011, 11th in 2014, 8th in 2015 and 8th in 2018.

Backloaded contracts don’t work the same in this country as they do in Australia. In this country cap value is taken as an amalgamation over the full length of the contract rather than the year by year earnings, making them very ineffective at getting around the cap for a single year.

14 team league and Super8's (and therefore harder fixtures) in some of those years though. 8th in 2011 was somewhat laughably a playoff place. I'd erased 2014 from my memory!

Was pretty ambivalent watching it today.
Found it very difficult to get that invested in the game.

I’ll be renewing, mainly because my son and daughter want a pass again next season.
Really not sure what I’d do if I didn’t have that as a motivating factor.

Successful teams frequently give contracts of longer than two years. Successful teams generally but not always give long term contracts to the players who subsequently prove they deserved them.

Lose next week and we finish 10th is that right.

If that doesn't give us a wake up call nothing will.

Our performances Rovers game apart have been pathetic the last 10 games, you only have to look at the effort of Salford, Hudds and Wakey the last few games, none of these have anulyhthing to play for but are still playing to win.

Big chances needed, does Pearson have the balls or cash?

No, we'd finish 9th.

Isn't that what has happened this year though?

I didn't do the Maths, just had a quick look at the table, it must be close between Hudds and us when we lose and they win.

If Wakefield beat us and assuming they beat Leigh today as do Huddersfield next week it'll be

Wakefield 41.67%
Hull 40.48%
Huddersfield 39.13%

Huddersfield will have won more but they'll have played 24 games (including the 0-24 walkover game against Cas).

Thanks, pretty depressing either way.

Really poor. No real excuse either. Every club has had injury or covid issues. 9th in a poor league is inexcusable. Wigan being fourth tells you all you need to know.

We looked very poor yesterday and I was struggling to see any green shoots. We may as well have played a few younger players to get sone sort of positive out of it.

We could really go with a win next week, apart from Leigh our confidence must be the lowest in the league and it really wont help going into the off season on the back of 6 defeats.

Unfortunately there is little chance of that happening.

Think we really need to bring in at least 3 players, 2 pivots (hooker and halfback) and another forward. The only way this can happen is to somehow offload a couple of players including Fonua.

I also think we need new or extra backrow staff, new conditioning team and a attack minded coach, I'd bring in Lee Briers.

Unfortunately most recruitment is done around June/July and things looked ok then, so it may be too late

Just had a play about with scenarios and no matter what happens next round, we finish 8th.
Lose, we’ll be on 21 games with 17 points giving 40.47%
Wakey will be on 23 games with 18 points giving 39.13%
Hudds if they win will be on 24 games with 18 points giving 37.5 %.

INOUT
Wakefield play Leigh this afternoon a win will improve their % then beating us will take them above us on 41.66

Apologies, I forgot about their game today.
So as you pointed out, a Wakey win today and next week, puts them 8th and us 9th. Really shabby end to a bollox of a season. I went to Nth. Cave after the game yesterday and a Cas bus was there. Had a bit of banter with them about us being crap. Normally I would have said” give the Dobbins a tonking” but my heart just wasn’t in it.


Play offs are interesting.
If Cas and Leeds win, Dobbins drop out of the six
Dobbins and Cas win, Leeds drop out
Dobbins and Cas lose, Cas drop out.