On the face of it a one point loss isn't too bad, but that's a very poor Wigan side. A top side would have murdered them.

Why does a prop forward have the ball on the last play of a game when we need to drop a goal. Not sure what is worst, a point defeat or a hammering. Radford should be fuming as i hope this comes across in the after match interview.

How many close games have we lost underRadford, last season he used game management as an excuse, now he has he own halfs that cant be an excuse

Again sounded crap, my patience has worn unbeleivably thin already, nothings changed, we'll do well not to be in the bottom 4.......

....the answer to the first paragraph is: we are poorly coached and have a losing mentality.

Watts ended up with it because weve got no brains, end of

Some great D in the second half but too many errors. Not finding touch with the penalty up there amongst the worst. Almost sneaked it on the last play,should have gone right not left, stupid play. That said Wigan offered very little. Tough times...

Wigan offerd very little, but beat a team at full salary cap with a bunch of kids....again

This week is worse then the Leeds result ............

No one could have lived with Leeds 2nd half performance, but tonight we could have won and all the spin and bollox will be paraded out. The simple fact is we are not good enough and from what I have seen thus far we are destined to be playing against Leigh, Bradfut, KR Landen et al....................... with very low crowds

Which team had the kids in it ?

Did you see wigans team sheet?

At full cap apart from Paea, Sa, Shaul, Lineham, Whiting. This is not an injury excuse at all BTW as the players we had available could have done the job. What do you mean by a bunch of kids? Apart from O'Loughlin how many seasoned first teamers did Wigan have out? Serious question, I don't know.

Bowen
Charnley
Gelling
Sarginson
Burgess
Powell
Smith
Sutton
Mcilorum
Mossop
Tomkins
Farrell
Patrick

Williams
Bateman
Clubb
Tautai


I know you're after blood but if you think that's a team of inexperienced kids you're losing your marbles.

Three under 21s but only Sutton not a first teamer, I believe.

End off the day, ive not doubted the experience, im doubting a team getting beat by a load of kids,,,. Check the ages out, and then if you must check the superleague appearances between the 2 teams

Apology accepted. We're poor so there's no need to make stuff up to prove it.

The last play was criminal..

Nonsense. Wigan did not have 'loads of kids' and we were not at full strength. We're quite bad enough without making stuff up.

Fully agree. Ridiculous.

Most disappointing thing is if we were even average with ball in hand we'd have 4, probably 6 more points than we currently have

yes there did ,bowden, charnley sarginson, gelling, smith ,chubb,mclorum,farrell,bateman,tompkins, oh hold on

Yup. No pace, no guile, no strike power, no support play...

Depressing.

Correct. Sneyd was poor overall tonight but him and Pryce are a decent combo at this level. We created no platform tonight for them, were too conservative and one-out virtually all game. Offloads and runners absent.

The worst Wigan team since before Noble - and their fans know it. No driving support from that silent majority!

We should and could have won. We weren't good. Clueless with ball in hand, flapping when a chance was there - the failure to spot and take advantage of Charnley's indisposition was schoolboy-error criminality.

The lack of a relentless pack to drive us up the middle was paramount, but the desperation fuelling our last gasp tackles in defence saved us. All a bit cobbled, but the defence was good tonight. Encouraging.

But sheer brainlessness cost us. Poor chases, lacklustre play-the-balls and the ridiculous lethargy when(not) forming the scrum with five minutes to go. And crowd's screaming frustration at Watts' last second brain-fart in chucking it the wrong way was mirrored by Pryce in his disgust as he stalked towards the tunnel. Not that we should be relying on the last play. Obviously.

Pryce had a good game, by the way. As did Ellis and Rankin (can someone please start shagging him to encourage him to stay? Ta.) And thanks too to Lancaster, good game from him. But the comradarie seems to have gone again. Niggles at the end and all. The crux of the matter?

that was two crap teams
Radford enthused by the defence but surely he must realise we are the most boring team in Super League.
If he wants some tips
Kicking crap
No back up of any runner
Create nothing ball in hand
which is exactly the same as last season

The scoreline may have been close but lets not forget a poor Wigan side bombed four tries

Great summary Wormy. Missed Paea's legdrive tonight. Pryce is really solid IMO but no platform or runners. Body language of players I agree wasn't what it should be. Can't oblige on Rankin, we want him to stay.