Didn't Dwain Chambers try out for Cas?

Hardly relevant, are you saying Lancaster has no more rugby ability than Chambers? I want my wingers main attribute to be blistering pace, not making metres after collision ffs.

Most wingers make good metres and get fast ptb's, because 9 times out of 10 they're tackled 1 on 1. And I reckon with his pace Lancaster would make more breaks over the course of a season. Apart from Dixon, Talanoa must be the slowest winger in the league, and I'm not even sure of that!

Height wise maybe but Briscoe was very strong for such a short winger and has one of the best leg drives for a winger in SL.

Lancaster has pace but isn't ready for SL every week yet due to his lack of strength.

Wouldn't like to see the likes of Monaghan, Burgess, Hall etc up against Lancaster. They'd have a field day up against him especially in the air.

I think what Mrs B is trying to say is you need a lot more than pace to make it as a SL winger as Chambers showed.

Just saying your sentiment of pace at all costs is overstating it. You said you'd trade very many other attributes for pace alone. A balance of attributes can be as useful over the course of a season as pace alone. Especially outside Yeaman.

Then we'll lose more games. A winger is asked to do a lot of things. Penny would be an england international if it was just about speed.

Well hopefully he wouldn't be outside Yeaman.

It's not pace at all costs, Lancaster has many good attributes already, I'm not the one saying pace is all he's got. I'm saying the main attribute of the winger should be pace.

Yet again, another one saying pace is all Lancaster's got. Does anyone watch the 19's?

Talanoa is one of the hardest to tackle. So making meters n also comitting opposition defenders n earning a fast play of the ball the 10/15 times in a game and the advantages that gives your team far outweighs having a player in to simply finish a chance that involves sheer pace.
Monaghan was top try scorer. He's far from a pace merchant. Most wingers tries these days require finishing prowess n power from short range. Fullbacks seem to score the larger share of long distance tries

Monaghan & Hall have a field day against most wingers in the air, the job is to stop the ball getting there in the first place, surely?

But again, you're assuming Lancaster can't do those things. Let's not forget, Lancaster had Monaghan on toast when we played them at the KC.

Again, In not saying he wont be a great winger but he needs more seasoning and to gain some strength. Look at the (official) Widnes highlights, poor attempt to stop his opposition winger, good finishing but Talanoa or Lineham would have finished all of these off too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szR505KXkJY

Again, In not saying he wont be a great winger but he needs more seasoning and to gain some strength. Look at the (official) Widnes highlights, poor attempt to stop his opposition winger, good finishing but Talanoa or Lineham would have finished all of these off too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szR505KXkJY

Seen him a few times. He does seem to have a bit about him. Just don't think he's got that much(yet) that he should be in ahead of Talanoa or that he'll excell week in week out against the Briscoes hall's seo 's monaghan s charnleys makinsons Carneys macgillvarys etc of the league!!

Lancaster has just turned 18 and as others have said it's a little early for him to have a starting spot against experienced wingers whose sheer physicality will be too much for him to handle week in week out at this stage of his career. Right now in my opinion Talanoa offers more as an all round player at SL level. That said I'm sure Lancaster will get opportunities, we know Radford isn't afraid to give youngsters their opportunities. Incidentally, very good news that Logan is impressing in training.

I'm sure Radford will see it your way, I just want pace in the backs and I'm worried we'll end up with Talanoa, Sa & Yeaman in the back line. How anyone can have watched SL over the last few years and not seen how important pace is, to me is strange.
Bearing in mind that Talanoa was an ever present, Lancaster in 5 games only had 2 less tries and 4 less clean breaks.

Not sure I see the 'this stage of his career' argument. What stage were Shaul, Lineham & Crooks at when they became regulars? Having seen Callum develop for a couple of years now I think he's ready.

Shaul debuted at 20. Lineham had 5 appearances at 19 in 2012, became a regular at 20 in 2013. Crooks debuted at 18/19. On balance, Lancaster is a season or so younger, having turned 18 in October. Radford recognises his potential, evidenced by his selection 5 times at 17. Depending on how they're showing up in training, I'd still go with Talanoa and Lineham initially.

to be fair London was a handpicked game for him and widnes were poor on the day as they had cup semi coming up. Tala actually switched sides to accommodate him.
Shaul or naughton - pacy
Lineham - fast as
Sa - powerful n mean
Michaels -fast
Talanoa - incredible strong n hard to handle

For me that's not that bad already. A nice balance of attributes.
Added to the fact we've a decent level of mobility in the pack to.
Callum will get chances anyway. Plenty I'm sure

Apologies if mentioned already, but is Michaels more centre than wing or the other way around?

Would be great to debate this into the season on the back of numerous wing overlaps having been created 40+ yards out by our new halves/backs. Let's hope that we are.

Think pace becomes more important the more that is created from that range. Talanoa can certainly score from 20 yards in even when one on one with a defender. Lancaster is still a young lad who has already shown some potential but lost his place in the recent academy series. He will come through. If we create loads and Talanoa is persistently hauled down when in the clear where Lancaster's pace would have made the difference then Radford will have to think very hard. As it stands Talanoa's all round game at this stage would see him rightly as first choice in game 1.

This was last week:

Could be wrong but I thought he was referring to Colbon with that comment.

In which case I apologise although I maintain his views on Michaels and Abdull/Pryce are rubbish.

But we should also bear in mind that 2 of those games and 5 of those tries came against 2 of the 4 worst defences in SL (including [ithe[/i worst by a country mile).

Whilst obviously there is merit in what can be seen in the U19s, I personally think it's still shaky ground to push a youngster's first team claims so strongly. The 19s can tell you who is next in line to be given their chance, but not necessarily how ready they are to take it. If the 19s was the yardstick, Tommy Lee, Craig Hall, and Graeme Horne would all be cornerstones of our team.