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| Quote ="Standee"I'm sending this to Hull City Council, Hull Daily Mail, Radio Humberside, Radio 5 Live, feel free to copy and amend if you haven't the time to write anything of your own:
To whom it may concern.
I am contacting you regarding recent developments at the Kingston Communication Stadium, when the stadium was first built it was "a community sports facility and home for Hull City and Hull FC, a stadium for the East Riding of Yorkshire and the City of Hull". Hull City and Hull FC moved in; Hull City were in the 3rd division at this point and would not have been able to afford the Kingston Communication Stadium had it not been for Hull FC agreeing to move into a shared facility and share the burden of running costs etc.
You note, I hope, the use of the word "shared" in terms of both the facility and also the associated costs. It is this "shared" element that I want to bring into question.
I do not know the last time you visited the Kingston Communications stadium, but you may recall that, on approach to the main reception there were, previously, three flags flying, a Hull City Council flag (rightly, as the owners of the stadium and the organisation that should be proud to have provided a facility for the people), Hull City (again, rightly, as a joint tenant of the facility) and Hull FC, (again, rightly as a joint tenant of the facility). In the reception area there were all manner of photo's, images etc. celebrating the proud history of the two joint tenants, as well as in the various corridoors and offices. The numerous suites and conferencing facilitiess were named after appropriate individuals from both teams past and each room was adorned with suitable and relevant pictures and images to celebrate the achievements of those individuals. The only room that wasn't named after a sports person was The Circle restaurant, Using the name "The Circle" was a reference to the cricket facility that once proudly stood where the Kingston Communication staidum now stands.
All of this continued for many years, with both clubs enjoying an equal standing on the agreement that, on occasion, one club may need to take priority dependant on the stage in their season, this equality worked well and few, if any, disagreements occured.
Unfortunately, if you visit the KC now you cannot even tell that anyone other than Hull City is involved with the stadium, a giant Black Cat spreads across the font glass elevation, the Hull City Council and Hull FC flags are nowhere to be seen. The Johnny Whitely Suite (who I might remind you is a freeman of the City and County of Kingston Upon Hull" is still there, but it is now bereft of any pictures or images of the great man, no celebration of his contribution to the City which he clearly and dearly loves, in fact, there's little or no evidence of Hull FC at all, no pictures in corridoors, no images of any of the players whose names to which the the suites and conference facilities are referred to.
If I am to believe what I am told, and I have no reason not to, Hull FC were even refused permission for their goal kicker, Daniel Holdsworth, to undertake a short kicking practice at the start of the season, an opportunity that has been affored to Hull FC for every season previous to 2013. My understanding that this was not a decision made by the ground staff, but the Stadium Management Company.
It appears to me that it is the Stadium Management Company who are at the centre off the current, and it appears, deteriorating, situation. Requiring Hull FC to pay to put their flag up, to pay to put pictures up in the suites that bare the name of their greatest and much loved heros. Now, as far as I recall, the Stadium Management Company have a 50 year lease, I woud like to know what provisions there are in that lease for these, "commercial" decisions to have been made, and what, as the owner of the stadium and surrounds Hull City Countil think of the disparity of treatment between the two joint (there' that word again) tenants.
I am sure we can all speculate as to the reasons behind the apparent change in the Stadium Management Companies attitude, possibly even down to a few individuals, we could also speculate as to why an appointment to the Stadium Managemnt Company of a senior figure at Hull FC's cross city rivals Hull KR was made, but in my experience speculation achieves little.
What would be really good is if someone, either in the media or in a position of power at Hull City Council (or both), could investigate the situation at the Kingston Communication Stadium and explain to the fans of boths clubs, and the electorate at large, why this disparity of opportunity has come about, and what can be done to redress the balance between the joint tenants in a shared community facility.
I look forward with interest to see how things progresses.
Kind Regards'"
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Thats got a 'Like' from me mate
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Said for years the SMC is a mill stone round our neck.
Yet so many were blinded by the good bits..
We are in for a battle, its not going to be nice, hope AP sorts it before he goes, or we will be very very stuck.
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I can`t believe we have to pay rent to put up pictures !
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| Quote ="Standee"I'm sending this to Hull City Council, Hull Daily Mail, Radio Humberside, Radio 5 Live, feel free to copy and amend if you haven't the time to write anything of your own:
To whom it may concern.
I am contacting you regarding recent developments at the Kingston Communication Stadium, when the stadium was first built it was "a community sports facility and home for Hull City and Hull FC, a stadium for the East Riding of Yorkshire and the City of Hull". Hull City and Hull FC moved in; Hull City were in the 3rd division at this point and would not have been able to afford the Kingston Communication Stadium had it not been for Hull FC agreeing to move into a shared facility and share the burden of running costs etc.
You note, I hope, the use of the word "shared" in terms of both the facility and also the associated costs. It is this "shared" element that I want to bring into question.
I do not know the last time you visited the Kingston Communications stadium, but you may recall that, on approach to the main reception there were, previously, three flags flying, a Hull City Council flag (rightly, as the owners of the stadium and the organisation that should be proud to have provided a facility for the people), Hull City (again, rightly, as a joint tenant of the facility) and Hull FC, (again, rightly as a joint tenant of the facility). In the reception area there were all manner of photo's, images etc. celebrating the proud history of the two joint tenants, as well as in the various corridoors and offices. The numerous suites and conferencing facilitiess were named after appropriate individuals from both teams past and each room was adorned with suitable and relevant pictures and images to celebrate the achievements of those individuals. The only room that wasn't named after a sports person was The Circle restaurant, Using the name "The Circle" was a reference to the cricket facility that once proudly stood where the Kingston Communication staidum now stands.
All of this continued for many years, with both clubs enjoying an equal standing on the agreement that, on occasion, one club may need to take priority dependant on the stage in their season, this equality worked well and few, if any, disagreements occured.
Unfortunately, if you visit the KC now you cannot even tell that anyone other than Hull City is involved with the stadium, a giant Black Cat spreads across the font glass elevation, the Hull City Council and Hull FC flags are nowhere to be seen. The Johnny Whitely Suite (who I might remind you is a freeman of the City and County of Kingston Upon Hull" is still there, but it is now bereft of any pictures or images of the great man, no celebration of his contribution to the City which he clearly and dearly loves, in fact, there's little or no evidence of Hull FC at all, no pictures in corridoors, no images of any of the players whose names to which the the suites and conference facilities are referred to.
If I am to believe what I am told, and I have no reason not to, Hull FC were even refused permission for their goal kicker, Daniel Holdsworth, to undertake a short kicking practice at the start of the season, an opportunity that has been affored to Hull FC for every season previous to 2013. My understanding that this was not a decision made by the ground staff, but the Stadium Management Company.
It appears to me that it is the Stadium Management Company who are at the centre off the current, and it appears, deteriorating, situation. Requiring Hull FC to pay to put their flag up, to pay to put pictures up in the suites that bare the name of their greatest and much loved heros. Now, as far as I recall, the Stadium Management Company have a 50 year lease, I woud like to know what provisions there are in that lease for these, "commercial" decisions to have been made, and what, as the owner of the stadium and surrounds Hull City Countil think of the disparity of treatment between the two joint (there' that word again) tenants.
I am sure we can all speculate as to the reasons behind the apparent change in the Stadium Management Companies attitude, possibly even down to a few individuals, we could also speculate as to why an appointment to the Stadium Managemnt Company of a senior figure at Hull FC's cross city rivals Hull KR was made, but in my experience speculation achieves little.
What would be really good is if someone, either in the media or in a position of power at Hull City Council (or both), could investigate the situation at the Kingston Communication Stadium and explain to the fans of boths clubs, and the electorate at large, why this disparity of opportunity has come about, and what can be done to redress the balance between the joint tenants in a shared community facility.
I look forward with interest to see how things progresses.
Kind Regards'"
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| Quote ="Standee"I'm sending this to Hull City Council, Hull Daily Mail, Radio Humberside, Radio 5 Live, feel free to copy and amend if you haven't the time to write anything of your own:
To whom it may concern.
I am contacting you regarding recent developments at the Kingston Communication Stadium, when the stadium was first built it was "a community sports facility and home for Hull City and Hull FC, a stadium for the East Riding of Yorkshire and the City of Hull". Hull City and Hull FC moved in; Hull City were in the 3rd division at this point and would not have been able to afford the Kingston Communication Stadium had it not been for Hull FC agreeing to move into a shared facility and share the burden of running costs etc.
You note, I hope, the use of the word "shared" in terms of both the facility and also the associated costs. It is this "shared" element that I want to bring into question.
I do not know the last time you visited the Kingston Communications stadium, but you may recall that, on approach to the main reception there were, previously, three flags flying, a Hull City Council flag (rightly, as the owners of the stadium and the organisation that should be proud to have provided a facility for the people), Hull City (again, rightly, as a joint tenant of the facility) and Hull FC, (again, rightly as a joint tenant of the facility). In the reception area there were all manner of photo's, images etc. celebrating the proud history of the two joint tenants, as well as in the various corridoors and offices. The numerous suites and conferencing facilitiess were named after appropriate individuals from both teams past and each room was adorned with suitable and relevant pictures and images to celebrate the achievements of those individuals. The only room that wasn't named after a sports person was The Circle restaurant, Using the name "The Circle" was a reference to the cricket facility that once proudly stood where the Kingston Communication staidum now stands.
All of this continued for many years, with both clubs enjoying an equal standing on the agreement that, on occasion, one club may need to take priority dependant on the stage in their season, this equality worked well and few, if any, disagreements occured.
Unfortunately, if you visit the KC now you cannot even tell that anyone other than Hull City is involved with the stadium, a giant Black Cat spreads across the font glass elevation, the Hull City Council and Hull FC flags are nowhere to be seen. The Johnny Whitely Suite (who I might remind you is a freeman of the City and County of Kingston Upon Hull" is still there, but it is now bereft of any pictures or images of the great man, no celebration of his contribution to the City which he clearly and dearly loves, in fact, there's little or no evidence of Hull FC at all, no pictures in corridoors, no images of any of the players whose names to which the the suites and conference facilities are referred to.
If I am to believe what I am told, and I have no reason not to, Hull FC were even refused permission for their goal kicker, Daniel Holdsworth, to undertake a short kicking practice at the start of the season, an opportunity that has been affored to Hull FC for every season previous to 2013. My understanding that this was not a decision made by the ground staff, but the Stadium Management Company.
It appears to me that it is the Stadium Management Company who are at the centre off the current, and it appears, deteriorating, situation. Requiring Hull FC to pay to put their flag up, to pay to put pictures up in the suites that bare the name of their greatest and much loved heros. Now, as far as I recall, the Stadium Management Company have a 50 year lease, I woud like to know what provisions there are in that lease for these, "commercial" decisions to have been made, and what, as the owner of the stadium and surrounds Hull City Countil think of the disparity of treatment between the two joint (there' that word again) tenants.
I am sure we can all speculate as to the reasons behind the apparent change in the Stadium Management Companies attitude, possibly even down to a few individuals, we could also speculate as to why an appointment to the Stadium Managemnt Company of a senior figure at Hull FC's cross city rivals Hull KR was made, but in my experience speculation achieves little.
What would be really good is if someone, either in the media or in a position of power at Hull City Council (or both), could investigate the situation at the Kingston Communication Stadium and explain to the fans of boths clubs, and the electorate at large, why this disparity of opportunity has come about, and what can be done to redress the balance between the joint tenants in a shared community facility.
I look forward with interest to see how things progresses.
Kind Regards'"
excelent lets see if you get any resonce, to me this isjust a continued attack by the allems on hull fc becuase he never got his own way with the stadium and it a campain to force talks about this | | |
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Excellent Standee (wish I could write letters like that).
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Well done Standee.
I was thinking it may be worthwhile to make Adrian Durham know at Talksport? He is by all accounts an FC fan and is not shy on voicing his opinions.
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| Quote ="Smiggs"Excellent Standee (wish I could write letters like that).'"
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Very well done, Standee.
Don't think even Mrs Barista could have improved on that!
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I'm getting together the various contact details, even if you just copy and paste what I have written and put your name to it and email it that would maybe help us to get something done. Obviously the clubs hand are pretty much tied, it's important to show them our support.
I am sure I've seen them posted on here so I'll trawl the threads, might be a long shot as people are heading to the game, but if anyone has any email addresses that would be useful please post them here.....
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Quote ="anijay"Very well done, Standee.
Don't think even Mrs Barista could have improved on that!'"
Mine was similar, not as good though. This version to Martyn Sadler who says he will reference in his column tomorrow and try to get reaction from AP. Sent versions to councillor a Brown, Brady and Geraghty. I'd encourage anyone with concerns to email Smailes at j.smailes@mailnewsmedia.co.uk
Hi Martyn
This isn't for the mailbag, but I'd like to share some concerns FC fans have about our tenancy at the KC stadium.
As you may be aware, the management of the KC is the remit of a company called Superstadium Management Company Limited, set up to run this superb facility gifted to the city by the council 10 years ago using a windfall from the sale of Kingston Communications. The SMC has the head lease with the council. Broadly this arrangement has worked well so far, with both sub-tenants, Hull City AFC and Hull FC co-habiting amicably.
However, since Assem Allam took over Hull City in December 2010, and at the same time took over the SMC, things have soured. Allam has been vocal in his desire to obtain the freehold of the KC and develop the ground and surrounding area for commercial purposes. Initially he claimed it would be a Sporting Village for the city, but subsequent versions of the aims of the project included a supermarket and shops. There have been a couple of farcical meetings between Allam and the council, where reportedly his offer price for the KC was derisory, but there is little appetite by the council to sell. There are many covenants on the surrounding West Park, library and a royal charter protecting Walton Street for the historic fairground. Allam has reacted indignantly to this, and more than once threatened to up sticks to Melton in the East Riding.
In the meantime, Adam Pearson was dismissed by the Allams from his position at Hull City, and relationships have become increasingly strained. As FC fans we believe deliberate attempts are bring made to cause the club unfair financial hardship and alienate us from what should be our home.
Financially, we are hearing of unfair rental increases. Charges by the SMC to administer season ticketing has led to FC's passes being processed by FC's own shop staff. We understand charges running into thousands of pounds are being levied just for photographs of our players to be displayed in the reception and function rooms. The club's insignia has been removed from display. This week new halfback Daniel Holdsworth arrived at the KC to request a 15 minute place-kicking practice session. He was denied entry to the ground. And finally, photographs of Johnny Whiteley, freeman of the city, have been completely removed from The Johnny Whiteley Suite.
Clearly the fact the SMC and Hull City have the same owners represents a huge conflict of interest to the extent that the SMC accounts reference the fact that it is a going concern only due to the support of related companies Allamhouse Limited and Hull City. We believe, as does a senior council member, that these actions are an attempt to force their hand on the stadium ownership issue. In the short term punitive financial terms could see FC become unviable, in the medium term homeless.
Anything you could do to help us either investigate matters or raise the visibility of our diminishing rights and visible presence in SL's best facility, and one designated for use by both teams, would be greatly appreciated. |
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Quote ="anijay"Very well done, Standee.
Don't think even Mrs Barista could have improved on that!'"
Mine was similar, not as good though. This version to Martyn Sadler who says he will reference in his column tomorrow and try to get reaction from AP. Sent versions to councillor a Brown, Brady and Geraghty. I'd encourage anyone with concerns to email Smailes at j.smailes@mailnewsmedia.co.uk
Hi Martyn
This isn't for the mailbag, but I'd like to share some concerns FC fans have about our tenancy at the KC stadium.
As you may be aware, the management of the KC is the remit of a company called Superstadium Management Company Limited, set up to run this superb facility gifted to the city by the council 10 years ago using a windfall from the sale of Kingston Communications. The SMC has the head lease with the council. Broadly this arrangement has worked well so far, with both sub-tenants, Hull City AFC and Hull FC co-habiting amicably.
However, since Assem Allam took over Hull City in December 2010, and at the same time took over the SMC, things have soured. Allam has been vocal in his desire to obtain the freehold of the KC and develop the ground and surrounding area for commercial purposes. Initially he claimed it would be a Sporting Village for the city, but subsequent versions of the aims of the project included a supermarket and shops. There have been a couple of farcical meetings between Allam and the council, where reportedly his offer price for the KC was derisory, but there is little appetite by the council to sell. There are many covenants on the surrounding West Park, library and a royal charter protecting Walton Street for the historic fairground. Allam has reacted indignantly to this, and more than once threatened to up sticks to Melton in the East Riding.
In the meantime, Adam Pearson was dismissed by the Allams from his position at Hull City, and relationships have become increasingly strained. As FC fans we believe deliberate attempts are bring made to cause the club unfair financial hardship and alienate us from what should be our home.
Financially, we are hearing of unfair rental increases. Charges by the SMC to administer season ticketing has led to FC's passes being processed by FC's own shop staff. We understand charges running into thousands of pounds are being levied just for photographs of our players to be displayed in the reception and function rooms. The club's insignia has been removed from display. This week new halfback Daniel Holdsworth arrived at the KC to request a 15 minute place-kicking practice session. He was denied entry to the ground. And finally, photographs of Johnny Whiteley, freeman of the city, have been completely removed from The Johnny Whiteley Suite.
Clearly the fact the SMC and Hull City have the same owners represents a huge conflict of interest to the extent that the SMC accounts reference the fact that it is a going concern only due to the support of related companies Allamhouse Limited and Hull City. We believe, as does a senior council member, that these actions are an attempt to force their hand on the stadium ownership issue. In the short term punitive financial terms could see FC become unviable, in the medium term homeless.
Anything you could do to help us either investigate matters or raise the visibility of our diminishing rights and visible presence in SL's best facility, and one designated for use by both teams, would be greatly appreciated. | |
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Good letter Mrs B, I was avoiding suggesting what might be the root cause as it's unlikely to attract attention (I believe) if it plays out as an "Allam v Pearson" issue, we want equlity [ias a club [/i and we need it to be ongoing regardless of who is at the helm of Hull FC or, for that matter, the SMC.
I'll send mine to Saddler as well, in fact, it can go in the postbag as far as I am concerned.
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Its a disgrace and the way i see it its just nothing but a cheap shot towards adam pearson, im a hull city fan aswell but as fc are my 1st love im afraid i wont be linning allams pocket by going to any more hull city games (and because its a bloody rip off)
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Has anyone sent a letter to boots n all? I know people like Stevo hold rugby leagues heritage in high regard and will want to do something about the situation
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| Quote ="Standee"I'm sending this to Hull City Council, Hull Daily Mail, Radio Humberside, Radio 5 Live, feel free to copy and amend if you haven't the time to write anything of your own:
To whom it may concern.
I am contacting you regarding recent developments at the Kingston Communication Stadium, when the stadium was first built it was "a community sports facility and home for Hull City and Hull FC, a stadium for the East Riding of Yorkshire and the City of Hull". Hull City and Hull FC moved in; Hull City were in the 3rd division at this point and would not have been able to afford the Kingston Communication Stadium had it not been for Hull FC agreeing to move into a shared facility and share the burden of running costs etc.
You note, I hope, the use of the word "shared" in terms of both the facility and also the associated costs. It is this "shared" element that I want to bring into question.
I do not know the last time you visited the Kingston Communications stadium, but you may recall that, on approach to the main reception there were, previously, three flags flying, a Hull City Council flag (rightly, as the owners of the stadium and the organisation that should be proud to have provided a facility for the people), Hull City (again, rightly, as a joint tenant of the facility) and Hull FC, (again, rightly as a joint tenant of the facility). In the reception area there were all manner of photo's, images etc. celebrating the proud history of the two joint tenants, as well as in the various corridoors and offices. The numerous suites and conferencing facilitiess were named after appropriate individuals from both teams past and each room was adorned with suitable and relevant pictures and images to celebrate the achievements of those individuals. The only room that wasn't named after a sports person was The Circle restaurant, Using the name "The Circle" was a reference to the cricket facility that once proudly stood where the Kingston Communication staidum now stands.
All of this continued for many years, with both clubs enjoying an equal standing on the agreement that, on occasion, one club may need to take priority dependant on the stage in their season, this equality worked well and few, if any, disagreements occured.
Unfortunately, if you visit the KC now you cannot even tell that anyone other than Hull City is involved with the stadium, a giant Black Cat spreads across the font glass elevation, the Hull City Council and Hull FC flags are nowhere to be seen. The Johnny Whitely Suite (who I might remind you is a freeman of the City and County of Kingston Upon Hull" is still there, but it is now bereft of any pictures or images of the great man, no celebration of his contribution to the City which he clearly and dearly loves, in fact, there's little or no evidence of Hull FC at all, no pictures in corridoors, no images of any of the players whose names to which the the suites and conference facilities are referred to.
If I am to believe what I am told, and I have no reason not to, Hull FC were even refused permission for their goal kicker, Daniel Holdsworth, to undertake a short kicking practice at the start of the season, an opportunity that has been affored to Hull FC for every season previous to 2013. My understanding that this was not a decision made by the ground staff, but the Stadium Management Company.
It appears to me that it is the Stadium Management Company who are at the centre of the current, and it appears, deteriorating, situation. Requiring Hull FC to pay to put their flag up, to pay to put pictures up in the suites that bare the name of their greatest and much loved heros. Now, as far as I recall, the Stadium Management Company have a 50 year lease, I woud like to know what provisions there are in that lease for these, "commercial" decisions to have been made, and what, as the owner of the stadium and surrounds Hull City Countil think of the disparity of treatment between the two joint (there' that word again) tenants.
I am sure we can all speculate as to the reasons behind the apparent change in the Stadium Management Companies attitude, possibly even down to a few individuals, we could also speculate as to why an appointment to the Stadium Managemnt Company of a senior figure at Hull FC's cross city rivals Hull KR was made, but in my experience speculation achieves little.
What would be really good is if someone, either in the media or in a position of power at Hull City Council (or both), could investigate the situation at the Kingston Communication Stadium ( "a community sports facility and home for Hull City and Hull FC, a stadium for the East Riding of Yorkshire and the City of Hull"icon_wink.gif; and explain to the fans of boths clubs, and the electorate at large, why this disparity of opportunity has come about, and what can be done to redress the balance between the joint tenants in a shared community facility.
I look forward with interest to see how things progresses.
Kind Regards
(changed a little, spelling also corrected [I think!)'"
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good point, maybe they can interview Johnny Whitely in the Johnny Whitely and ask him about the memories the pitcures invoke......, seriously, they could interview him and ask if he's still happy for the SMC to use his name. | | |
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I dont know enough about the SMC situation to pass comment on it. However, what i do know is that Johnny Whiteley is one of the greatest sportsmen this city has ever produced, a great ambassador and absolute gentleman. To treat him in this manner is plain wrong.
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Perhaps we could collate a poster, of these and other facts about the Allam’s that paint a true picture, and have them displayed around the City.
Will the real Mr Assem Allam, please stand up:
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Surprised hudge hasn't spoken up in his hull city capacity about this slur on a former rovers coach
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According to Humberside they've asked the Allams for a statement and they've spoken to Ehab Allam who said they will speak to them on the Oval Ball after todays game. This could be interesting.
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Ehab Allam says #HullFC able to put any pictures up in KC Stadium they wish, but both they and #HCAFC have to pay to do so.
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According to Smailesy and his tweets on the Allams. It sounds like our club have refused to pay to have the photo's kept up, hence them "disappearing".
I don't agree with having to pay for them to be displayed. In fact fact I find it disgusting. We pay our way, we pay the largest rental fee on any stadium out of all of the Super League clubs and it's suppose to be a community stadium.
Sounds like the Allams are just playing games. Apparently Nick Thompson (Hull City's Chairman) is due to come on, on the Oval Ball at 5pm. My question is, what the hell has it got to do with Hull City is beyond me. This should be a decision made between the club and the SMC.
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Ehab Allam says #HullFC able to put any pictures up in KC Stadium they wish, but both they and #HCAFC have to pay to do so.'"
Figured that would be the excuse.
So basically the Allams pay the Allams to put pictures up and then use that as a phoney reason to charge FC for the privilege. It stinks, but I suspect there will be little that can be done about it other than hope that public pressure forces second thoughts about the Whiteley Suite at least. | | | |
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