You appear to think that only getting physically incapacitated counts as drinking too much. A little research may change that opinion, especially when it comes to pro sports.

It's amazing how little people know, especially players, on the effects of alcohol up to 3 days after a game.

I think that was Kosh's point too.

Why would the sun have to pay legal fees ? It never ceases to amaze me about how RLfans gets all excited about sub judice cases. All the sun is doing is reporting what he was arrested for and when, thats perfectly above board. What's not allowed is discussing the details of his arrest in case potential jurors are influenced by something thats hear outside of court, I saw only one vague post so far on RLfans thats done that.

No I don't, I am more than aware of drinking limits and the effects I see it on a regular basis at work!

Tongue in cheek...

RLFans get's 'all excited' about [isub judice[/i cases because they have the [ipotential[/i to get the site closed down and the owners fined large amounts of cash. And while you may be aware of the limits to what can and can't be discussed, many people who post on here are not. Hence the blanket ban.

At the time, this Aussie carried the entire team, and never once looked like his alleged off the field behavior affected his performance. Anyway, it's a ridiculous comparison because this said player was not at any time arrested and plastered all over the papers making our club look foolish, after having plenty of previous!

I'm not so sure. Plenty of otherwise mature, responsible people are happy to brag/joke about how much they had to drink at the weekend. That they behave well whilst drunk doesn't alter the fact that regular binge drinking is not good for anyone's health.

Yeah, but it's so fun!

Very disappointing new regarding Aspinwall. Glad the club have acted swiftly, don't think he will be given the boot though. He will get another chance, upto him to take it.

Your not sure my comment was tongue in cheek? I am sure Wolfie will confirm my comment was tongue in cheek! I assure you I am not a binge drinker! and I am more than aware of the effects of binge drinking.
Like most I have been drunk though, and my point is so have many and yet they know how to behave, maybe my idea of being drunk is different to others, I for one have never being that drunk I am not aware of what happened or what I said etc.

Not sure where this is going as my orignal reply is that I saw no problem with players having a few drinks, not once did I suggest they get plastered..Most adults/players are aware of how many drinks to consume without resorting to binge drinking, and I am sure most players enjoy one or two pints on a w/end after a game.

I saw all the players out on Saturday night and some of them was knocking back the shots like no tomorrow, also coming out of the arena one player was chucking his beer all over someone in the foyer and the door supervision had to intervene, not good in my book when they should be setting an example. That said player also came with a reputation for his drinking.

But you don't have to be in order to cause physical damage. And it is quite possible to binge drink without being drunk.

Well seeing that they've glossed over Seymour's offence, would be surprised if Aspinwall is sacked. Problem now is the message is every squad player has at least one chance to feck up with no major consequences. Pretty disappointing all round when the likes of Lynch are putting the extra effort in.

As Kosh has pointed out, even small amounts of alcohol can affect recovery. Professional sportsmen should be avoiding alcohol altogether during their season if they want to be at their best.

And I don't think you're really naive enough to believe that the players go round town after a match and have one or two pints each, either.

Not read the whole thread but get the gist, Saints have not been immune from this either over the years. There was great debate over how many chances we give a player, does it depend on how key he is to the team etc.

I suppose the difference with Aspinwall is that he came with a rep and you would hope that he would want to repair that rep at a new club.

Hull themselves last year had to let a player go after several chances. But in the end it's another player who can't cope. It's not like we can't all look around our own places of work and spot the ones who clearly attract or cause trouble for one reason or another.

Quote the Mail understands it comes following the his arrest by Humberside Police, who charged him for being drunk and disorderly in a public place. "Hull FC have suspended Martin Aspinwall pending an internal investigation at the club," said a club spokesman in a statement. "The forward was suspended over the weekend whilst the club look into a disciplinary matter. The club will make no further comment at this time." While the Black and Whites have released no further details, the police have confirmed Aspinwall was arrested and charged for an incident over the weekend. The incident is alleged to have happened in the early hours on Sunday, December 18, in Wilberforce Drive, Hull city centre. Following his arrest, Aspinwall is now due to appear at Hull Magistrates Court on Friday, December 30. www.thisishullandeastriding.co.u ... story.html '" was this after the after-party for "prizefighter" at Pozition

Quote the Mail understands it comes following the his arrest by Humberside Police, who charged him for being drunk and disorderly in a public place. "Hull FC have suspended Martin Aspinwall pending an internal investigation at the club," said a club spokesman in a statement. "The forward was suspended over the weekend whilst the club look into a disciplinary matter. The club will make no further comment at this time." While the Black and Whites have released no further details, the police have confirmed Aspinwall was arrested and charged for an incident over the weekend. The incident is alleged to have happened in the early hours on Sunday, December 18, in Wilberforce Drive, Hull city centre. Following his arrest, Aspinwall is now due to appear at Hull Magistrates Court on Friday, December 30. www.thisishullandeastriding.co.u ... story.html '" was this after the after-party for "prizefighter" at Pozition

I think if we all step back and remove the emotion of supporting our club we should asses the situation in full.

Firstly Martin as yet is not guilty of anything. If he is subsequently found to have breached the club's code of conduct then I am certain Mr Pearson and his team will deal with Martin. Whatever the outcome I think we should support the club and accept that they hopefully know whats best for the club and the squad.

In terms of chances lets look at the history of or game and society in general. In my lifetime I always remember a Radio Humberside interview with Peter Fox then coach at Bradford. Fox was asked about Ellery Hanley and what good form he was in and how he posed a threat to Hull. Fox's reply was straight to the point. "Ellery Hanley is in jail". Amazingly Bradford kept him on and look how they lived to regret it.

How did Steve Norton get his nickname. Do your research with a West Yorkshire resident and you might just be surprised.
Equally Knocker and Lee Crooks two massive legends of our club. Tea total throughout their careers. I know times have changed and its supposedly proven that alcohol is not good for highly trained and tuned athletes. but we are all different.

As for other clubs. Well Wigan have a high profile player re-signed after a 2 year ban. Stuck by him.
Leeds had a few banged up a few years ago and we loved it as they played us the following weekend. Stuck by them.

Society in general. Stephen Fry...... say no more. I am sure there are many more examples.

So as a nation / society we give people second chances, and third and fourth if needed. Its called being civilised. The sad thing comes when the person in question can not appreciate what he actually has. Maybe this is going to be a shot across the bows for Martin. Maybe we will wash our hands of him. Maybe for his own benefit he actually needs to restock and get help in another form. We don't know sat behind our computers, I just hope Martin does as he has a long life ahead of him which shouldn't leave him in the gutter.

Was Aspinwall the only person pi$$ed and drunk and disordely on sat night in town??????

Stephen Fry - Say no more

What do you mean Graham, his crimes as a youngster?

Most of your post refers to a time when the game was completely different to how it is now. The rest of it (Stephen Fry??) is irrelevant. He's a pro athlete and he should behave like one. If a TV presenter gets piszed when he's not working, it's unlikely to affect his performance next time he is working.

Only one arrested for it, as far as I'm aware. Which, when he's just been in prison and has been given a second (third? fourth?) chance by our club, is slightly concerning.

It's strange how fans slag players off for not trying in the match but they can not give their all in the week to no critism.