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| Quote ="Marfa Manu"I am not impressed we have signed him for 3 yrs when he has yet to prove a consistent season in SL, I have not made one comment about his abilities....which bit of that do you fail to understand ?'"
The bit you haven't explained properly.
So what do you think of his as a player?
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| Quote ="Chris28"maybe not "slagging him off" but a negative to Standee's positive.
Even you were "not impressed".
Again not a slagging, but unnecessarily negative when the kid's only just signed.'"
Jesus Christ, WHOOOSH!!!
Can you not detect the sarcasm in FC Casual's post?????
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| Quote ="Raggytash"Jesus Christ, WHOOOSH!!!
Can you not detect the sarcasm in FC Casual's post?????'"
Sarcasm detector out for repair. Which bit was sarcastic?
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| Quote ="Marfa Manu"I am not impressed we have signed him for 3 yrs when he has yet to prove a consistent season in SL, I have not made one comment about his abilities....'"
If it'd been Noble signing him next month bet you'd have been as happy as a pig in .
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| Quote ="Standee"indeed, and do you know for a fact that Wigan didn't try and keep O'Carroll? I'll answer, NO, you don't.
maybe, just maybe, he thinks a move to pastures new will freshen him up, maybe, just maybe, we offered him a better contract over the term?
I would imagine most other SL clubs would have been interested, but it doesn't matter, maybe AP/JR should run all the signings past you, check that you're impressed first, obviously you know so much more about the game than almost anyone else posting on here this morning.'"
Loved the way you amended that to include JR then....it is pointless attempting to debate any-thing to do with our club with you due to your fantasy friendship with AP..
For the record I doubt AP is making any signings he will be receiving advice as by his own admission he is not knowledgeable enough in the sport yet.
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| O'Caroll
Welcome to the Huuuullll
Was it down to Agar, Pearson or Rule,
What colour is your hair,
I hope it isnt dyed,
Cos thats for Fags like Newton,
Who like to have a cry
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| Quote ="Chris28"Sarcasm detector out for repair. Which bit was sarcastic?'"
Everything except the first line I think. Luckily I'd had my third cup of coffee and my sarcasm detector was just about warmed up.
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| Quote ="Hutchie"O'Caroll
Welcome to the Huuuullll
Was it down to Agar, Pearson or Rule,
What colour is your hair,
I hope it isnt dyed,
Cos thats for Fags like Newton,
Who like to have a cry [size=50(when their birds are getting a bigger and better portion elsewhere).[/size
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| Quote ="Hutchie"O'Caroll
Welcome to the Huuuullll
Was it down to Agar, Pearson or Rule,
What colour is your hair,
I hope it isnt dyed,
Cos thats for Fags like Newton,
Who like to have a cry
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Fookinf hell. Although the homophobic reference is bang out of order and ar$eholes like Newton would have been much more pc.
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| Quote ="Marfa Manu"Loved the way you amended that to include JR then....it is pointless attempting to debate any-thing to do with our club with you due to your fantasy friendship with AP..
For the record I doubt AP is making any signings he will be receiving advice as by his own admission he is not knowledgeable enough in the sport yet.'"
where have I ever claimed a friendship with AP? I haven't, I know him and he knows me, we speak on infrequent occasion if I happen to see him, and if you think someone like AP isn't getting himself involved in signings and the general business plans then you are, quite frankly, an idiot.
It's pointless trying to debate with you because you change the basis of your opinion/argument to suit when you're being shown up as not really knowing very much, but I am sure you'll keep on doing it.
So, O'Carroll, as a player, not the length of the deal (seen as though you've flip flopped to that being the basis of your ire on the subject)
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| Quote ="Chris28"The bit you haven't explained properly.
So what do you think of his as a player?'"
Decent enough player before his injury problems, not decent enough to throw a 3 yr deal at though especially with his injury record.
1 yr would have been better imo, see how he goes and leave yourself with options for what becomes available on the market.
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| Well I am happy about this signing, a young British prop and at 24 still growing (size & knowledge).
Yes he has been injured but lets face it, it was one injury not a series of lots of different injuries and it has now been treated. The last Wigan player we signed in Cameron Pelphs hasn't turned out too bad has he, in fact I think he has gone pretty well this season and I rememeber all the doom and gloom merchants on here saying the same thing about him and injuries.
Love the way he reconises the fans and also I love players with a point to prove because they can be dangerous big woot woot from me, I am excited.
Going to be another great signing. (young, British, potential)
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| Quote ="Standee"where have I ever claimed a friendship with AP? I haven't, I know him and he knows me, we speak on infrequent occasion if I happen to see him, and if you think someone like AP isn't getting himself involved in signings and the general business plans then you are, quite frankly, an idiot.
It's pointless trying to debate with you because you change the basis of your opinion/argument to suit when you're being shown up as [unot really knowing very much[/u, but I am sure you'll keep on doing it.
So, O'Carroll, as a player, not the length of the deal (seen as though you've flip flopped to that being the basis of your ire on the subject)'"
You told me in a PM you were friends with AP.....
You really do not need to concern yourself about my knowledge, nor does any-one else on here for that matter
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| Quote ="Standee"
I would imagine most other SL clubs would have been interested, but it doesn't matter, maybe AP/JR should run all the signings past you, check that you're impressed first, obviously you know so much more about the game than almost anyone else posting on here this morning.'"
In defence of MM, the whole idea of the thread is for people to say what they think about the signing. She's not impressed. That doesn't mean she thinks every signing should be run by her prior to its execution, she's just expressing an opinion. Should every thread about new signings contain only positive opinions, do you think?
For what it's worth, I'm neither impressed nor unimpressed. I'm keeping an open mind. He seems to be a talented player who's had a bit of a nightmare with injuries. On that basis, 3 years is a bit of a risk, but I'd like to think that this risk has been accounted for in his contract terms. If he manages an extended injury free run, he could turn out to be just the ticket.
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| Quote ="Marfa Manu"Decent enough player before his injury problems, not decent enough to throw a 3 yr deal at though especially with his injury record.
1 yr would have been better imo, see how he goes and leave yourself with options for what becomes available on the market.'"
I don't imagine he would have come here for 1 year (unless it was extendable for a further 2 based on appearances etc).
I honestly don't know enough about him to know if he's a decent player, but if the clu wanted him, based on their assessment, and a 3 year deal was what he was after, it all seems sensible to me.
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| Quote ="Marfa Manu"You told me in a PM you were friends with AP.....
You really do not need to concern yourself about my knowledge, nor does any-one else on here for that matter
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I guess it depends how you define friends, anyway.
I agree RockGod, but MM wasn't explaining themself very well, which they appear now to be doing.
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| Quote ="Marfa Manu"Decent enough player before his injury problems, not decent enough to throw a 3 yr deal at though especially with his injury record.
1 yr would have been better imo, see how he goes and leave yourself with options for what becomes available on the market.'"
Just got a txt from a mate in Wigan who says we beat saints and widnes for his signature who all offered 3 yr deals and Bradford a 2. So some people rate him and as has been said what else is out there.
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| Quote ="Standee"
I agree RockGod, but MM wasn't explaining themself very well, which they appear now to be doing.'"
How many of them are there?
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| Don't think its a bad signing, a bit of a risk yes, but not a bad signing. However if i were looking for a young prop from Wigan. then the guy who has been on loan at Cas, Ben Davies would have been my target.
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| Quote ="Standee"I guess it depends how you define friends, anyway.
I agree RockGod, but MM wasn't explaining [uthemself very well[/u, which they appear now to be doing.'"
For the record MM (me) is only one person on this board!...nor do I have to explain any-thing...not impressed with 3 yrs due to injury record simple as!....More than happy to be proved wrong especially with my lack of knowledge and all that like
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| Quote ="Rock God X"How many of them are there?'"
Most who know me on here will tell you 1 is more than enough
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| Quote ="Rock God X"For what it's worth, I'm neither impressed nor unimpressed. I'm keeping an open mind. He seems to be a talented player who's had a bit of a nightmare with injuries. On that basis, 3 years is a bit of a risk, but I'd like to think that this risk has been accounted for in his contract terms. If he manages an extended injury free run, he could turn out to be just the ticket.'"
Pretty much my stance also. Maybe a tad more optimistic based on comments from the Wigan fans. I really haven't seen enough of him to form a more rounded opinion at this point. The injury record doesn't concern me as much as some, since it appears to be a single underlying problem that took a long time to diagnose and rectify.
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| Quote ="Gordon Gekko"Don't think its a bad signing, a bit of a risk yes, but not a bad signing. However if i were looking for a young prop from Wigan. then the guy who has been on loan at Cas, Ben Davies would have been my target.'"
I doubt they will release him, looks a great prospect.
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| Quote ="Marfa Manu"For the record MM (me) is only one person on this board:'"
yes, we know
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| Quote ="Standee"yes, we know'"
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