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| Quote ="carl_spackler"Union.'"
Wash your mouth out son.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"I'm sure there's a stack of criticism on here can't be d to read it. No one knows how it will turn out. we could have signed a 23 year old who could get cruciate ligament damage in game one. Welcome to Hull FC Wade I hope you are another Brett Hodgson.'"
So right Staffs, if he is any way as good as B Hodgson he will do for me. Slightly worried if he is injury prone but have only seen that he is on this forum??
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| agree give the bloke a chance,
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"I'm sure there's a stack of criticism on here can't be d to read it. No one knows how it will turn out. we could have signed a 23 year old who could get cruciate ligament damage in game one. Welcome to Hull FC Wade I hope you are another Brett Hodgson.'"
I was hoping for him to be more like billy slater myself
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| Quote ="JMR"Come on Sheldon, I admire most of your posts, but you seem to have lost your critical faculties on this one.
Just look above at what you've just written and tell me you honestly stand by that?
That wouldn't even apply if you were talking about McKinnon at his pre-knee reconstruction best would it?
He has never been [ithat [/igood and the knee reconstruction and ensuing hamstring problems have stripped him of all his pace and reduced him to half the player he was!
He was only at Wests because he was a cheap option and, after further injury problems, his agent has worked miracles to extend his career by another two years!'"
Stand by what? There's only Boyd of any real quality available! Bowen's reportedly staying with NQC so who's are Wests going to sign who's better?
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| 144 games over 10 seasons! do the math, its not pretty! but hey who knows
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| Interesting to note McKinnon has the same agent as Rangi Chase....
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| Quote ="Sheldon"Stand by what? There's only Boyd of any real quality available! Bowen's reportedly staying with NQC so who's are Wests going to sign who's better?'"
Come on Sheldon...you know the game!
There will be a clutch of younger, hungrier and fitter full-backs ready to roll off the Toyota Cup production line at season's end, off of whom would be better options than a 31-year-old McKinnon.
Of the available 'old guard', What about Preston Campbell or Rhys Wesser for starters?
I honestly don't know why you trying to 'spin' this signing - It's Adam Dykes all over again!
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| Quote ="Panther"Interesting to note McKinnon has the same agent as Rangi Chase....'"
Let's hope we've thrown a 3 year contract at a crock as a sweetener for the chase deal
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Let's hope we've thrown a 3 year contract at a crock as a sweetener for the chase deal'"
Personally I'm not hoping that's why we've done it, but I found it interesting to read the link, especially as Chase's agent will have a long list of clubs both here and in NRL to choose from should the player leave Cas.
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| I've already posted they'll probably look to their youngsters, Wests have just said as much, but at this moment in time their not as good as McKinnon hence he starting as fb when available.
There's no spin on my part, Sheens has said he would have liked him to stay but didn't want to stand in his way of a longer deal and when fit he is west tigers first choice fb.
Wesser and Campbell?
Wesser is 2 years older and missed 2009 with a knee injury.
Campbells 4 years older and is missing games with hamstring and knee injuries.
Both are rumoured to be retiring at the end of the year.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Are you a Hull FC supporter? Not disagreeing, just curious.'"
I am a Hull FC 'supporter' yes...not a rabid, anti-KR, one-eyed fanatic I grant you, but yes Hull FC are my favourite team.
Does that cause me to lose my critical faculties when it comes to signing a 31-year-old Aussie journeyman with a reconstructed knee and tight hamstrings? NO.
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| Quote ="Panther"Personally I'm not hoping that's why we've done it, but I found it interesting to read the link, especially as Chase's agent will have a long list of clubs both here and in NRL to choose from should the player leave Cas.'"
I might be reading it wrongly but I get the impression Chase may have a release clause.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"I've already posted they'll probably look to their youngsters, Wests have just said as much, but at this moment in time their not as good as McKinnon hence he starting as fb when available.
There's no spin on my part, Sheens has said he would have liked him to stay but didn't want to stand in his way of a longer deal and when fit he is west tigers first choice fb.
Wesser and Campbell?
Wesser is 2 years older and missed 2009 with a knee injury.
Campbells 4 years older and is missing games with hamstring and knee injuries.
Both are rumoured to be retiring at the end of the year.'"
Fair point, but both would be picked above McKinnon every day of the week at this moment in time!
Tim Sheens has wanted McKinnon off his salary cap. Of course he is going to publicly give it the "...we'd like to keep him..." routine to reassure potential suitors.
What did you expect him to say? ..."we need this crock off our payroll ASAP, his hamstrings are shot..."
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| Wesser who got dropped for a 18 year old because of poor form?
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Not a lot I would imagine, certainly not as much as many on here.
Mathers has only played for Leeds, Warrington, Wigan and Cas.
Won 2 Cups.
Played in the NRL.
On another note.
On the Wests fans forum Mckinnon is 2nd in the player of the season awards behind Marshall.
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Not a lot I would imagine, certainly not as much as many on here.
Mathers has only played for Leeds, Warrington, Wigan and Cas.
Won 2 Cups.
Played in the NRL.
On another note.
On the Wests fans forum Mckinnon is 2nd in the player of the season awards behind Marshall.
www.weststigersforum.com/
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| But I hijacked that poll Dave to spin the signing!
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Quote ="Dave K."Not a lot I would imagine, certainly not as much as many on here.
Mathers has only played for Leeds, Warrington, Wigan and Cas.
Won 2 Cups.
Played in the NRL.
On another note.
On the Wests fans forum Mckinnon is 2nd in the player of the season awards behind Marshall.
www.weststigersforum.com/'"
Think Ellis has won it two years running but he's missed a lot of games this season so far with injuries.
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Mathers has only played for Leeds, Warrington, Wigan and Cas.
Won 2 Cups.
Played in the NRL.
On another note.
On the Wests fans forum Mckinnon is 2nd in the player of the season awards behind Marshall.
www.weststigersforum.com/'"
Think Ellis has won it two years running but he's missed a lot of games this season so far with injuries.
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| He has indeed Paul, Wests are missing him big time.
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| I can't believe the number of " fans " slagging the guy off before the ink's even dry on the contract - give him a chance ffs.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Wayne Gardiner on Twitter:
QuoteCameron Phelps and his biscuit hamstrings will be looking for another new club for 2011 then. Hull FC say bigger names to come too..
Intersting quote from the journo above that there are bigger signings to come, wonder who they might be
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Dunno, but Phelps to Rovers to replace Briscoe who's off to Widnes ??
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| If there are "bigger names" arriving than McKinnon (who won't be cheap) it stands to reason there will be 'big name' departures.
The club is at full-cap now and that is with Phelps playing for 'buttons' and Gleeson playing on a contract which is heavily-loaded on next year's salary.
Something has to give - Fitzgibbon just for starters, probably Horne and Luaki too.
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| Interesting comments here
[urlhttp://www.weststigersforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=7689[/url
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| Quote ="Smiggs"Interesting comments here
[urlhttp://www.weststigersforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=7689[/url'"
certainly puts a different view on things,compared to the shouts of ''past it,too old,not good enough,injury prone'' etc,etc.The age thing doesn't worry me at all,it's his injuries.Hamstrings are common at the best of times,but playing over here,at the start of the season when it's usually still cold does worry me .
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