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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Or, it's providing some balance. Choose your viewpoint.'"
Spot on Mrs B.
I agree with a lot of what people are complaining about but think the hysterical overreaction has gone way over the top. So yes just trying to add balance.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Or, it's providing some balance. Choose your viewpoint.'"
It's the choice of words I have a problem with, if that sort of language is ok now I'm fine with that!
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| I'm so proud of the mature way folk have approached our current problems.
Yes siree...
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| Quote ="garry brindley"It's the choice of words I have a problem with, if that sort of language is ok now I'm fine with that!'"
What is wrong with it? It's an accurate description isn't it?
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| Quote ="PAUL M"What is wrong with it? It's an accurate description isn't it?'"
Like I said mate I've got no problem at all with it, just pointing out that you're not doing much for the other mods efforts to stop people with opposing views 'laying into each other'.
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| Quote ="garry brindley"icon_smile.gif Like I said mate I've got no problem at all with it, just pointing out that you're not doing much for the other mods efforts to stop people with opposing views 'laying into each other'.'"
Why where have I layed into anyone?
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| Quote ="Kosh"I'm so proud of the mature way folk have approached our current problems.
Yes siree...'"
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| Just for the record, i have no issue with people disagreeing, but unless you pay for junior tickets at the club, there's no excuse for name calling and other childish behaviour as part of the disagreement
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| Quote ="PAUL M"icon_confused.gif:'"
Not just me who was wondering what context he was using that in
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Why where have I layed into anyone?'"
Seriously?
Ok mate if you don't think describing people of a certain point of view as an 'infestation' has pretty offensive connotations then I'm not going to try and convince you.
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| Quote ="Chris28"Just for the record, i have no issue with people disagreeing, but unless you pay for junior tickets at the club, there's no excuse for name calling and other childish behaviour as part of the disagreement'"
I pay for a junior ticket........... It's for my son but i still pay for it so does that mean i can resort to name calling
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| Quote ="PAUL M"icon_confused.gif:'"
General sarcastic comment - just happened to be on this thread when the urge overwhelmed me.
I'm just getting a little tired of fans knocking lumps out of each other. Bad times.
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| Quote ="garry brindley"Seriously?
Ok mate if you don't think describing people of a certain point of view as an 'infestation' has pretty offensive connotations then I'm not going to try and convince you.'"
He was just pointing out that everything is turning into "anti club" threads. Thus an infestation of negative posts. Nothing offensive about it for me and i will normally be one of the first to pick Paul up on something
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| Quote ="hullbg"I pay for a junior ticket........... It's for my son but i still pay for it so does that mean i can resort to name calling
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| It's like lord of the flies in here! all we need is Expro/Solero to use the term "island" and the scene is set.
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| I know what you mean though Chris, I am a negative poster however I try my best not to engage in name calling etc because it just shows that you have run out of constructive things to say.
Certain users are always resorting to personal remarks when debating an issue rather than debating the actual issue.
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| Quote ="hullbg"He was just pointing out that everything is turning into "anti club" threads. Thus an infestation of negative posts. Nothing offensive about it for me and i will normally be one of the first to pick Paul up on something
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Nah I'm not having that, there's so many other words he could have used to make the same point: 'inundated', 'dominating', 'too many' etc etc. But he chose the one that made it look like people of my view were like a plague of locusts
It is funny and this is very very daft but the hypocrisy is definitely there.
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| As I said somewhere earlier, we all support the same team, and want the same things.
Can't we just all get along?
(And we're supposed to hate Rovers, not each other)
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| Quote ="garry brindley"Seriously?
Ok mate if you don't think describing people of a certain point of view as an 'infestation' has pretty offensive connotations then I'm not going to try and convince you.'"
You seem to have mis-read my post......I used the word infest as in - taking over the forum.
Anyway I stand by my comment and it was brought about after you had suggested that Staffs should not post.
There is an infestation of doom and gloomers on here and whilst some are making vaild points the hysteria with it is quite frankly ridiculous.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Spot on Mrs B.
I agree with a lot of what people are complaining about but think the hysterical overreaction has gone way over the top. So yes just trying to add balance.'"
I'm a fairly rational person, and make a good living out of a fact/evidence/numbers based profession, but following a club's not about rational thought, it's irrational devotion to a cause that chooses you, and the current frenzy on here IMO just represents people choosing how to express an intense frustration about something they love to pieces but have absolutely no control over. It's about power and the reality is we have none, but demonstrations/expressions of discontent in the media and on here are the only ways we feel we can find a voice and exercise a tiny amount of pressure. There's nothing wrong with that per se, and I'm not judging as I'm agitating for change too, having reached the end of my rope, but the site right now is a great illustration of the power of the internet IMO. Before the internet existed, none of us would have put the amount of time and effort into discussing the minutiae of Hull FC that we now do, simply because the platform to do so didn't exist. The downside is that whilst it's a good thing to share opinions, miserable and hysterical tery is our stock in trade at the moment, and I include myself in that. Equally, look back at 2005. I remember coming back from Cardiff and there being more than 3 pages of unread threads of jubilant celebration, celebrating everything from Danny Brough's boots to Carvell's forward roll after Blacklock's backflip, to Leeds fans mooning out of a minibus on the M1 on the way home. Emotive and unbalanced quite clearly, but it works both ways. Good work on trying to stabilise the unhinged amongst us, like me.
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| Quote ="hullbg"He was just pointing out that everything is turning into "anti club" threads. Thus an infestation of negative posts. Nothing offensive about it for me and i will normally be one of the first to pick Paul up on something
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Thanks.
Yeah you do, you after something
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| Quote ="PAUL M"You seem to have mis-read my post......I used the word infest as in - taking over the forum.
Anyway I stand by my comment and it was brought about after you had suggested that Staffs should not post.
There is an infestation of doom and gloomers on here and whilst some are making vaild points the hysteria with it is quite frankly ridiculous.'"
Infestation:
# the state of being invaded or overrun by parasites
# a swarm of insects that attack plants; "a plague of grasshoppers"
wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn
I'll just keep this bookmarked for next time someone gets in trouble for calling someone a sheep
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| Its just further signs of how bad things have got that fans are now arguing amongst themselves, this cant go on for much longer IMO. I honestly think that if we lose on Friday and get our annual hammering at Wigan the week after things will come to a head.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Fantastic post. They doom and gloomers would love for anyone with a hint of positivity to stop posting so they can infest the forum even more.'"
Hang on a minute Paul,I am feeling dejected about the whole situation at the moment,and would love for something positive to happen to brighten things up.It probably will,Yin and Yang and all that.
I think its a bit unfair to say people who are brassed off infest the forum.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"I'm a fairly rational person, and make a good living out of a fact/evidence/numbers based profession, but following a club's not about rational thought, it's irrational devotion to a cause that chooses you, and the current frenzy on here IMO just represents people choosing how to express an intense frustration about something they love to pieces but have absolutely no control over. It's about power and the reality is we have none, but demonstrations/expressions of discontent in the media and on here are the only ways we feel we can find a voice and exercise a tiny amount of pressure. There's nothing wrong with that per se, and I'm not judging as I'm agitating for change too, having reached the end of my rope, but the site right now is a great illustration of the power of the internet IMO. Before the internet existed, none of us would have put the amount of time and effort into discussing the minutiae of Hull FC that we now do, simply because the platform to do so didn't exist. The downside is that whilst it's a good thing to share opinions, miserable and hysterical tery is our stock in trade at the moment, and I include myself in that. Equally, look back at 2005. I remember coming back from Cardiff and there being more than 3 pages of unread threads of jubilant celebration, celebrating everything from Danny Brough's boots to Carvell's forward roll after Blacklock's backflip, to Leeds fans mooning out of a minibus on the M1 on the way home. Emotive and unbalanced quite clearly, but it works both ways. Good work on trying to stabilise the unhinged amongst us, like me.
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I think you sum up the majority of RL fans not just FC ones. Great post
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