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| Quote ="PAUL M"A peach from Swann ends it, a 5for to boot!!
England go 0-1 up in the series by an inngs and 71 runs
Huge win and full deserved, big question now is who comes in for the two sides? I reckon Hughes for Katich and possible Kwahara (sp) for North. For England if it is purely a bowler they want then Tremlett will get the nod but if the want to keep a long batting line up then Bresnan will come in, I can't see Shazhad getting a go.'" how often to the aussies get beat by an innings at home? icon_smile.gif
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"how often to the aussies get beat by an innings at home?
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| Quote ="PAUL M"1993 by the WI
'" The womans institute had a good team that year though!
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"The womans institute had a good team that year though!'"
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| Smith, Beer, Johnson and Hughes all in. North, Katich and Doherty out.
Aus will probably line up like this:-
Hughes
Watson
Ponting
Clarke
Hussey
Haddin
Smith
Johnson
Harris
Siddle
Beer
Haddin up the order, Smith as the alrounder with Johnson taking the batting to no.8 and two spinners in the side.
Englands bowlers did not get much joy today although Tremlett's figures looked ok 15-4-29-0
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Smith, Beer, Johnson and Hughes all in. North, Katich and Doherty out.
Aus will probably line up like this:-
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Watson
Ponting
Clarke
Hussey
Haddin
Smith
Johnson
Harris
Siddle
Beer
Haddin up the order, Smith as the alrounder with Johnson taking the batting to no.8 and two spinners in the side.
Englands bowlers did not get much joy today although Tremlett's figures looked ok 15-4-29-0'"
Australia really are struggling to put a decent side together......2 spinners in Perth....always known as a seamers wicket isnt it?
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| Quote ="fc baldy"Australia really are struggling to put a decent side together......2 spinners in Perth....always known as a seamers wicket isnt it?'"
Thats what i thought mate. Always plenty of bounce in Perth, thats one of the reasons it looks like Tremlett will get the nod, think he is 6'7?? Plus, the two spinners they have aint got a patch on Swann, and our new all-rounder KP!
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| Quote ="fc baldy"Australia really are struggling to put a decent side together......2 spinners in Perth....always known as a seamers wicket isnt it?'"
Pace and bounce is the way forward in Perth! Tbh I think Smith is in more for his batting as his leg spin isn't the best.
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| New Cricket rules for the remaining ashes fixtures
Following the crushing defeat of Australia, the International Cricket Council has imposed a new set of rules for the remaining Ashes fixtures
1) As a result, Australia has been granted an automatic wickie, freeing up wicket keeper Brad Haddin to defend the boundary. Under the rule, English batsmen will be deemed out "caught behind" if the ball nicks their bat and lands in the immediate area behind the wicket.
The rule is a compromise from the original Australian proposal which had pushed for automatic slips as well. The ICC refused that request on the grounds that "someone has to go and get the ball when an Englishman misses it."
2) In addition, England is under strict "tip and run" restrictions which require they take a run off every ball they hit. Rickie Pontin was happy to accept this, as it meant no change to his current game plan. As a compromise, it was agreed that the English will also have to shout out the word "wickets" when completing a run to make run out decisions by
umpires easier.
3) English Batsman Kevin Pieterson has "six and out" restrictions imposed on him. As well, following complaints from Australian fielders, Pieterson will have to get the ball if it goes
across the road.
4) Instead of using a bat, Cook will now be obliged to use his arm with his jumper wrapped around it.
5) New rules for Australia include "one hand, one bounce" while they are fielding, and the provision of "last man carries" when they are batting.
6) The Australians tried to extend the "can't get out first ball" provision to "can't get out first ten overs", but the ICC proclaimed that the extra runs gained would hardly be worth the effort. English captain Strauss has vigorously opposed the "last man carries"
rule and has launched an appeal. Strauss says England will only agree to the rule if there
are electric wickets at the end, allowing English fielders to throw to
the stumps at either end.
7) A spokesperson for the ICC also announced that following a series of ducks ducks "from now on Ryan Harris can't get out for a duck".
The Australian medium pace bowler will also be allowed to wrap the ball's seam with electrical tape when he's bowling in the second innings.
9) The spokesperson added there will be "no LBW for Australian batsmen unless "it is really, really obvious."
10) Greame Swann has conceded that its "fair enough" that he has to ,bowl underarm (but not molly grubbers) to the Australian tail end.
11), England are firm favourites for the remainder of the Ashes Series, paying $0.22, while an Australian win is currently paying $1.3 trillion.
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| Quote ="Bellbottom"New Cricket rules for the remaining ashes fixtures
Following the crushing defeat of Australia, the International Cricket Council has imposed a new set of rules for the remaining Ashes fixtures
1) As a result, Australia has been granted an automatic wickie, freeing up wicket keeper Brad Haddin to defend the boundary. Under the rule, English batsmen will be deemed out "caught behind" if the ball nicks their bat and lands in the immediate area behind the wicket.
The rule is a compromise from the original Australian proposal which had pushed for automatic slips as well. The ICC refused that request on the grounds that "someone has to go and get the ball when an Englishman misses it."
2) In addition, England is under strict "tip and run" restrictions which require they take a run off every ball they hit. Rickie Pontin was happy to accept this, as it meant no change to his current game plan. As a compromise, it was agreed that the English will also have to shout out the word "wickets" when completing a run to make run out decisions by
umpires easier.
3) English Batsman Kevin Pieterson has "six and out" restrictions imposed on him. As well, following complaints from Australian fielders, Pieterson will have to get the ball if it goes
across the road.
4) Instead of using a bat, Cook will now be obliged to use his arm with his jumper wrapped around it.
5) New rules for Australia include "one hand, one bounce" while they are fielding, and the provision of "last man carries" when they are batting.
6) The Australians tried to extend the "can't get out first ball" provision to "can't get out first ten overs", but the ICC proclaimed that the extra runs gained would hardly be worth the effort. English captain Strauss has vigorously opposed the "last man carries"
rule and has launched an appeal. Strauss says England will only agree to the rule if there
are electric wickets at the end, allowing English fielders to throw to
the stumps at either end.
7) A spokesperson for the ICC also announced that following a series of ducks ducks "from now on Ryan Harris can't get out for a duck".
The Australian medium pace bowler will also be allowed to wrap the ball's seam with electrical tape when he's bowling in the second innings.
9) The spokesperson added there will be "no LBW for Australian batsmen unless "it is really, really obvious."
10) Greame Swann has conceded that its "fair enough" that he has to ,bowl underarm (but not molly grubbers) to the Australian tail end.
11), England are firm favourites for the remainder of the Ashes Series, paying $0.22, while an Australian win is currently paying $1.3 trillion.'"
This is exactly the kind of stuff that we shouldn't be saying, how very English to count our chickens before they hatch.
The Aussies seem to be in disarray and we are playing well but we have won nothing yet.
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| Quote ="garry brindley"This is exactly the kind of stuff that we shouldn't be saying, how very English to count our chickens before they hatch.
The Aussies seem to be in disarray and we are playing well but we have won nothing yet.'"
Its a bit of humor, i enjoyed it
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| Quote ="Bellbottom"New Cricket rules for the remaining ashes fixtures
Following the crushing defeat of Australia, the International Cricket Council has imposed a new set of rules for the remaining Ashes fixtures
1) As a result, Australia has been granted an automatic wickie, freeing up wicket keeper Brad Haddin to defend the boundary. Under the rule, English batsmen will be deemed out "caught behind" if the ball nicks their bat and lands in the immediate area behind the wicket.
The rule is a compromise from the original Australian proposal which had pushed for automatic slips as well. The ICC refused that request on the grounds that "someone has to go and get the ball when an Englishman misses it."
2) In addition, England is under strict "tip and run" restrictions which require they take a run off every ball they hit. Rickie Pontin was happy to accept this, as it meant no change to his current game plan. As a compromise, it was agreed that the English will also have to shout out the word "wickets" when completing a run to make run out decisions by
umpires easier.
3) English Batsman Kevin Pieterson has "six and out" restrictions imposed on him. As well, following complaints from Australian fielders, Pieterson will have to get the ball if it goes
across the road.
4) Instead of using a bat, Cook will now be obliged to use his arm with his jumper wrapped around it.
5) New rules for Australia include "one hand, one bounce" while they are fielding, and the provision of "last man carries" when they are batting.
6) The Australians tried to extend the "can't get out first ball" provision to "can't get out first ten overs", but the ICC proclaimed that the extra runs gained would hardly be worth the effort. English captain Strauss has vigorously opposed the "last man carries"
rule and has launched an appeal. Strauss says England will only agree to the rule if there
are electric wickets at the end, allowing English fielders to throw to
the stumps at either end.
7) A spokesperson for the ICC also announced that following a series of ducks ducks "from now on Ryan Harris can't get out for a duck".
The Australian medium pace bowler will also be allowed to wrap the ball's seam with electrical tape when he's bowling in the second innings.
9) The spokesperson added there will be "no LBW for Australian batsmen unless "it is really, really obvious."
10) Greame Swann has conceded that its "fair enough" that he has to ,bowl underarm (but not molly grubbers) to the Australian tail end.
11), England are firm favourites for the remainder of the Ashes Series, paying $0.22, while an Australian win is currently paying $1.3 trillion.'" Excellent!
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| Quote ="garry brindley"This is exactly the kind of stuff that we shouldn't be saying, how very English to count our chickens before they hatch.
The Aussies seem to be in disarray and we are playing well but we have won nothing yet.'" Jesus H. Christ, have a day off will you.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Jesus H. Christ, have a day off will you.'"
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| Bellbottom. That was quality! Laugh out loud stuff.
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| Won the toss, put them in and watch them collapse! 3/28!
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| Very good first day for England. Bit disappointed the lower order got a few too many runs, but to see off the new ball this morning without losing a wicket puts us firmly in the driving seat.
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| The tide has turned, started with their tail wagging yesterday. It will be 1-1 soon with two to play.....
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| Quote ="PAUL M"The tide has turned, started with their tail wagging yesterday. It will be 1-1 soon with two to play.....'"
Looks like that at the moment but if we can get them out relatively cheaply it will make an interesting 2nd innings from us.
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| Quote ="hullbg"Looks like that at the moment but if we can get them out relatively cheaply it will make an interesting 2nd innings from us.'"
Max we can afford to chase is 350. So anything more than the 268 they scored in the first inngs would be bad. A couple of early wickets tomorrow and we have a shot.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Max we can afford to chase is 350. So anything more than the 268 they scored in the first inngs would be bad. A couple of early wickets tomorrow and we have a shot.'"
Think England have blown this one. They seem to have let the sledging get at them a little though it has to be said Johnson was virtually unplayable. However 350 is getable on a ground that has seen plenty of 300+ 4th innings scores, but like you say England need early wickets.
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| I think India chased over 400 in Perth last year.
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| I think there is only ever two teams that have won a game chasing 200 or more at perth in test cricket.
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| Just to note in the tour game England chased 223 to win and were 223-4 so batting last is not automatically a bad thing.
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