Calderwood manages it a bit better?

Does he? I honestly can't remember. He's certainly quicker which may get him out of trouble from time to time

Craigs confidence is a shambles now thats the easiest way to describe him, time for a move i am afraid as he will not recover any form at FC as it stands

No one fault other than his own .

Well thats what happens when you get most of the crowd sarcastically cheering and a coach with no confidence in him......yes Hall is to blame as well but still think we could have had a very good player on our hands but a move is the obvious thing to do now.

even after his interveiw on Humberside stating he wanted to stay at Hull and wasnt moving to Rovers the HDM still said he was moving poor kid mustnt know whether hes coming or going with our press

A difficult situation this one....If Craig wants to stay he needs to go on a dual contract imo....that way he can be loaned out play at the level he is at presently and hopefully develop and gain some confidence and build and improve his game.

The right wing spot is a poison chalice!

No service in attack

In defence, you will always be left to your own devices.

Ask Blacklock, Sing, Calderwood etc etc.

Last night Wigan perfectly exploited our frail defensive system.

I doubt he takes any notice of that rag. It's not even good enough to be tomorrow's fish and chips wrapper.

couldnt of wrote it better myself!!!!! its a 17 man team and yet again craig gets the blame, the whole team was crap thats why they were NILL........

Roll on his depart at the end of the season then you will have to find someone else to slag off!!!!

FFS, read the thread. I don't believe there's a single post blaming Craig Hall for the defeat. It might help your argument if you actually read what has been written, rather than what you [ithink[/i has been written.

half the comments on here are blaming Craig!!! are you reading the same as me!!!!!

Ok, quote them.

No they are not.

Well now Thorman`s gone,another scapegoat is needed.
(Not that I am sorry Thorman`s gone b.t.w.)

With Whiting and Calderwood injured Hall had a great chance to claim his place in the team and earn a new contract.

Frankly he blew it. He was very poor on Friday night, although probably not the worst player out on the park.

However I think his FC career effectively ended when Agar took him off. It reminded me of Thorman at Cas last season.

I think he's a gonner now. Right or wrong? Only time will tell.

Apparently one of the Rovers directors is saying that they're ready for Hall with all the paperwork organised, just waiting for the signature. Justine has seen the lads potential and is confident of coaching some decent defence into him.

Good luck to him. It's quite clearly not working for him here and it's time to get rid. He's too small to be a SL centre and any half decent centre would just walk straight through him. Ultimately he has potential though and I hope he fulfills it because if there's anything England is devoid of it's a decent centre.

IMO if craig hall was going to be a success at our club then it would involve a much better coach and a fully fit halfback pairing

the team would be playing with more cohesion and confidence and the ball would get shipped out to the wings alot more

in the last couple of seasons craig has been regarded as one of our best attacking players and he would take his opportunities better by being introduced into the team more effectively by a better coach who would monitor his progress more efficiently and try to nurture his talent

therefore there's a few factors that contribute to his bad form hence peoples short sightedness in slagging him off. just look at how youngsters improve at leeds & wigan - it doesn't compare to hull fc

i'm not trying to knock agar or the team but consistency would inspire success and then confidence. with the injuries to longy & fitz it has made that goal unachievable but then again even michael maguire can't prevent injuries, he just deals with them better (maybe their squad is structured better).

our "misfortune" has been caused by knock-on effects which result in players like craig hall struggling for form and he doesn't get chance to play his best position every week which would also help

That's one way of looking at it. Another is that not every promising youngster goes on to make a SL standard player. Some inevitably fail to realise their early promise (for a whole variety of reasons, coaching being just one) and must instead forge a career in the lower leagues.

Justine has done a great job with Kris Welham hasnt he!!



Hally will be better leaving here, cant help that think it's not the team he plays for it's the standard of the opposition that may be a problem. He needs a season in NL1.

perhaps his defence will improve if and when he plays outside of a decent second rower, arguably his best games for hull have been in the left centre position (albeit very infrequently due to yeamans automatic pick)playing outside willie manu.

On the same subject he had a poor game on friday playing outside turner who I'd say had his worst game in a hull shirt (though he has been ok generally) and lazy hutch lauaki

Unfortunately Craig has had too many poor games for it all to be blamed on the players around him.

Its also unrealistic to expect the team/formation to be picked so that he is surrounded by players who can cover his defensive shortcomings.

Its not just that he is poor defensively, because many good attacking players are too, but he shows no signs of being able to reach even the minimum standard to be expected of a SL player.