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| We were beaten by the better team but Ganson was inconsistent at best.
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| Quote ="Standee"Oh, I have emailed him, asked him for clarification specifically of the dragging into touch, it needs changing so either you can do it, or you cant.'"
The way i see it, you can push into touch but not pull into touch.
Inconsistent though as some refs give it and others dont. Ganson technically was right by the letter of the law.
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| (sorry mods, didn't see the Ganson thread)
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| Quote ="Standee"(sorry mods, didn't see the Ganson thread)'"
Thought i'd comment on it to bring it from page 2 for you
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"We were beaten by the better team but Ganson was inconsistent at best.'"
Don't disagree mate.
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| Quote ="Standee"Don't disagree mate.'"
He missed a blatant knock on which i believe Wire scored from and the penalty on Sam Moa from the kick off was laughable. Happens every tackle.
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| Wire were better than us and deserved to win.
We were bear fair and square and can have no complaint about the result.
None of this changes the fact that Ganson had an awful game.
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| The fact that Ganson gets a hard on when he's the centre of attention and seems to come up with some pretty bizarre decisions to encourage this (not just when he's reffing us) is what annoys me most about him. He is a decent ref, but if he let the players have the attention instead of him, he could be much, much better.
I hope the refs room at the KC has been cleaned thoroughly, he'll have been banging them out for ages after the attention he got yesterday from both sets of fans
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| Quote ="Chris28"The fact that Ganson gets a hard on when he's the centre of attention and seems to come up with some pretty bizarre decisions to encourage this (not just when he's reffing us) is what annoys me most about him. He is a decent ref, but if he let the players have the attention instead of him, he could be much, much better.
I hope the refs room at the KC has been cleaned thoroughly, he'll have been banging them out for ages after the attention he got yesterday from both sets of fans'"
What a really, really horrible thought.
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| Another comment was that "the only discernable change since the referee's going professional is that Ganson appears to be able to afford more pies"
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| Quote ="Amadeo Avogadro"What a really, really horrible thought.'"
I've scrubbed myself clean after typing.
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| Quote ="Chris28"I've scrubbed myself clean after typing.'"
At least you didn't burden us with the image of him sucking his own tits whilst pleasuring himself. That would have been too much.
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| Quote ="Amadeo Avogadro"At least you didn't burden us with the image of him sucking his own tits whilst pleasuring himself. That would have been too much.'"
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| This thread just repeats and confirms what we all know. The refereeing standard in SL is poor. The crazy and subjective rule changes don't help but it's the inconsistency from game to game , decision to decision and team to team that frustrates everyone. Ganson's ego is so inflated that when he has a bad game his arrogance just makes it seem even worse , like he is enjoying the limelight caused by the controversey. Cummings should do the right thing and walk away or the RFL should grow some balls and get rid. He was the VR at Catalans and gave two tries to them which just weren't tries , hell if he can't make a correct judgement on a slow mo VT he's got no chance of making the right calls for the game in general. This needs sorting quickly before it kills the game.
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| Quote ="techno"If thats the case how did Bratfud get away with lifting Tansy from the floor and dumping him into touch and getting feed at the scrum??????? Each ref has their own take on the rules and its inconsistent!!! and very irritating.'"
If you recall at the time, the crowd at the bradford game went mad as it should have been a penalty to Hull.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"He never dragged him. The ball carrying arm never touched to the floor and Yeaman had both arms around him and was not dragging. It was an awful decision and they scored off the next set. He also failed to spot an obstruction for the try that gave them the lead and he also harsly penalised Moa when we had the ball which allowed them to level. He also missed 2/3 headshots and in general had a poor game imo.'"
Take a look at it when it comes onto HULLFCTV. Yeaman goes into touch before the ball carrier (Yeaman is behind, not infront of the man with the ball). This is classed as dragging
Just being devils advocate, but Ganson also missed the very forward pass for Manu's try. Swings and roundabouts.
Was Ganson to blame for Morley being about to walk though our defensive line on half way without a hand being layed on him?
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"Take a look at it when it comes onto HULLFCTV. Yeaman goes into touch before the ball carrier (Yeaman is behind, not infront of the man with the ball). This is classed as dragging
Just being devils advocate, but Ganson also missed the very forward pass for Manu's try. Swings and roundabouts.
Was Ganson to blame for Morley being about to walk though our defensive line on half way without a hand being layed on him?'"
Yeaman was not draggin though he was tackling and the momentum had not stopped, he actually flipped him as they got near to touch. Tansey got dragged into touch the other week and nothing was done. The ref's are getting it wrong and it needs clearing up, we are simply penalising good defence.
You are right he did, they still got most of the decisions though.
Game was over once they went 22-16 up, the last try was irrelevant.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Yeaman was not draggin though he was tackling and the momentum had not stopped, he actually flipped him as they got near to touch. Tansey got dragged into touch the other week and nothing was done. The ref's are getting it wrong and it needs clearing up, we are simply penalising good defence.
You are right he did, they still got most of the decisions though.
Game was over once they went 22-16 up, the last try was irrelevant.'"
The way i saw it Yeamo was dragging/pulling rather than pushing which is fine.
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| Quote ="Faithful One"That was ridiculous.
Also should Wire's 2nd try have stood? Couldn't see it from the East stand but the South West corner went mental
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Well I was in the south west corner and neither me or my friends went mental as we all clearly saw Hicks ground the ball legitimatly before he was bundled out of play. Nothing wrong with it.
As for the Yeaman incident again he clearly dragged the player into touch which is no longer allowed.
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| Quote ="Smiggs"Well I was in the south west corner and neither me or my friends went mental as we all clearly saw Hicks ground the ball legitimatly before he was bundled out of play. Nothing wrong with it.
As for the Yeaman incident again he clearly dragged the player into touch which is no longer allowed.'"
Qn, if you were in the South East corner how can you comment on Yeamans tackle?
And people I know who were sat in the West Stand said the Wire player had taken the corner flag out.
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| Quote ="Standee"Qn, if you were in the South East corner how can you comment on Yeamans tackle?
And people I know who were sat in the West Stand said the Wire player had taken the corner flag out.'"
Well there wrong he didn't touch the corner flag, the Hull tacklers did, he grounded the ball easily, that's why the try was awarded.
How can I comment on Yeamans tackle because I could see him stood on the touchline side of the player and saw him drag him into touch.
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| Quote ="Smiggs"Well there wrong he didn't touch the corner flag, the Hull tacklers did, he grounded the ball easily, that's why the try was awarded.
How can I comment on Yeamans tackle because I could see him stood on the touchline side of the player and saw him drag him into touch.'"
All "in your opinion" which is the problem with the rule about taking a player into touch, other people saw it differently. (wasn't attacking your opinion, just using it as evidence of the confusion)
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| Quote ="Standee"All "in your opinion" which is the problem with the rule about taking a player into touch, other people saw it differently. (wasn't attacking your opinion, just using it as evidence of the confusion)'"
That's fair enough.
I can understand how someone in the West stand might have viewed the Hicks try differently as they may have seen it slightly from behind, but we were right above it in the corner and he grounded the ball. It was a great piece of finishing IMO.
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| Quote ="Smiggs"That's fair enough.
I can understand how someone in the West stand might have viewed the Hicks try differently as they may have seen it slightly from behind, but we were right above it in the corner and he grounded the ball. It was a great piece of finishing IMO.'"
tbf my issue is mainly the Yeaman thing, rules that are "open to interpretation" then it's wrong, certainly on something as fundamental as what constitues top drawer defence.
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