Wouldn't read anything into that.

Moa and Washy were leaving Brantingham just before the under 20s kicked off when i arrived. No first teamers played for the 20s so i reckon all of Moa, Washy and Burnett will figure on Monday.

I reckon all 3 will feature, and so they should no need to patch players up we have Leeds up twice.

Lyne and Jack Briscoe played for the 20s which i guess decides the backline we will go with. No Tuffour but i presume he's playing for York?

I would not consider using the young ones in this game tbh..Morley & Carvell would certainly want to welcome them

Think the only backline we can go with is

Whiting
Turner
Yeaman
Hall

Imagine all the length of the field tries!

Agree, and it is not too shabby that

It might've been worth losing the game seeing Lauaki stand up and hit Newton properly! It may have got him a ban for a couple of games but it would send a massive message out to any other niggling numpties that fancy being 'clever' gets you waking up in the dressing room!!!!

! Silverwood was pretty OK yesterday with the rest of the game....but his 'victimisation' of Lauaki was discusting.....He basicaly sent the message out to Rovers......"you can hit this bloke and get in his face as much as you want....cos if he relaliates in any way, shape or form...he's off"

Tuffour played for York last night and scored a try. Burnett didn't play for Sheffield though.

If hes ok to play.

whats wrong with Hall

slight injury to finger,but may play with painkillers.

With Lauaki and Tickle both doubts i'd bet my house that Burnett will figure somewhere on Monday. (unless we push Fitz into 2nd row to accomodate Washy at 13)

Your point is wrong, plain & simple. Losing your temper & retaliating costs games(what if he'd have got 10 in the bin??) Getting back at someone in a legal sense is all the more sweeter and attracts less attention to you because you have done it completely fairly.
Just look at how many dirty shots are given against a player who makes a perfectly legal massive hit compared to one who lashes out. The mere fact that you do not react is more than likely to attract less dirty shots if you show it isn't working. Retaliating to try to say "dont mess with me" is what you do in the playground.
Hame was in the wrong to do so, however the ref didn't deal with the situation particularly well either.
Fitz does not retaliate in the same way Hame does, nor anywhere near as frequently.

Thats what i said to a mate today,whiting may of gone there but cant see him been moved from the centres.

Dont think weve got enough fit bodies to move Whiting out of the backline.

I'd rather we leave Fitz at 13 and play Burnett though. Would lose some of Fitz value by making him play in one channel of the pitch.

Tickle wont play and i cant see how lauaki can seen as he suffered concussion,dont you have to have the head test thing before you can play again,briscoe doesnt look good either,so i reckon we will see a few different players come in,burnett will replace tickle wont he,sure he did that earlier in season.

I'd imagine the following side:
Tansey
Whiting
Turner
Yeaman
Hall
Horne
Long
Cusack
Berro
O'Meley
Burnett
Manu
Fitz

Houghton
Dowes
Moa
Radford

Use Radford in the 2nd row.

Fitz ran 20ish yards to retaliate - an action that could have been penalised and ultimately cost us the game. Was he not in the wrong as well according to you ? Good on him I say you cannot be dominated in any way in these games. I say well done to both - you try to excuse Fitz and blame Lauaki. Fair enough if that's what you think. Seems like double standards to me.

If somebody hit you when you are on your back on the ground it,s instinct to hit out ..the elbow in his face then a head butt that cut Lauaki eye I would like to bet 9 out of 10 people would have thrown a punch

Not excusing him I'm saying that Fitz didn't do it directly in front of the ref so was less likely to be caught, Hame did it right under the refs nose on 3 occasions in one match hence why one was pulled up & the other not. Fitz has not given away anywhere near as many penalties as Hame nor relatiated as much. Hame should hand it back legally or he'll continue to be targetted by oppos players & refs alike and will get sent off sooner rather than later.

As I said earlier we'll agree to disagree. I don't believe as a player you can allow yourself to be dominated illegally by the opposition. Yes ideally you would always turn the other cheek and let your playing do the talking but in 30 odd years of watching Hull I know for a fact if there is some illegal stick going in in normally blows up. It did today in the 20's by all accounts and it always will. I used Fitz purely as an example that even the very top and most respected players in the game don't take any and I agree with that. You don't and that's fair enough.

FWIW Hame isn't our most indisciplined player this year in terms of penalties conceded and when he came on yesterday he did absolutely nothing wrong until being caught by the pathetic Cockayne's elbow while unable to defend his head. Even then he didn't retaliate until the little e started mouthing off at him while again he was still on the ground. Again, after that incident, he didn't go looking for anything until Newton gave him some more. Should have hit Newton much harder but never mind. Like I say I haven't got a problem provided it isn't our players starting the niggle. Then it becomes unacceptable ill discipline. Enough now for me anyway none of us will change our minds on it.

id have this team with maybe washy for fitz