I can see that, but I think hooker's just about the hardest position to produce something special from individually. More than any other position, it relies on good work from other players/poor work from the opposition.

Very true but how many times does Cunningham come on and completely change and dominate a game. He seems to get Saints moving.

the trouble with berrigan is he came on richard swain's wages with richard swain's reputation and as everyone knows he is nowhere near richard swain, still a good player mind and if he'd come on a lot less money and with a lot less hype everybody would be highly satisfied with him, whether he deserves to be one of the very top earners at the club is questionable for me.

That has been over a period of time during which Saints have been particularly good at finding a quick play though. That's not happened quite as often over the last couple of years and Cunningham's effectiveness has decreased. Although that will also be partly down to him getting on in years.

Sure I remember Roby being even quicker from acting half??

Your point being?

Roby has got to be one of the most over-rated players ever. How he won MOS is beyond me. I'd rather have Berrigan than Roby tbh and thats saying something!

a player wins man of steel, raved about by the aussies last year, courted by the Roosters so on and so forth OVER RATED???
you dont win MOS by being over rated matey

When did the ozzies rave about him and when did the roosters want him?

both straight after the world cup mate!!!

and in any case a man who won MOS isnt over rated !!he wins MOS because he IS rated!

I must have missed that mate, can't remember him been mentioned.

Roosters are after graham though.

and so is a man who's won the Clive churchill medal, state of origin, test caps and was named in Brisbane broncos finest 20 players of all time.

Yep the Oz press were jumping through hoops about him , I have the cuttings here in a file direct from the rags etc along with all the other momentos of the trip I collected!!

As for graham i can see why he is a go to performer and as our other exports are doing so well they are looking for more from the UK, would do him good hes a top player

I have never questioned his record just his current form, at present he is very average, also he has been on average very ordinary since he arrived , yes he played in a poor side when he arrived and yes i am one of the few who knew he wasnt a swain type tackling machine however his distribution, awareness and speed from the play the ball is no where near what it was when he won those gongs, thus he has been average at very best with a few decent showings thrown in here and there!!!
your turn!!

Sorry but as i remember it it was a bit of a shock when Roby won as he'd done well but nothing amazing. Since then how good as he been? Answer = garbage!

hows roby been playing since the mos victory?

shock to who ?? you, funny how everyone who knows the game from the inside thought he was an awesome young player [uand still is[/u!!
your answer = garbage

ha ha ha in my opinion and those who watch him every week (family member and saints forum) he is now playing some of his best footie or do you watch him every week, or I guess the saints fans dont know anything about RL either huh, just you
your turn

hows Berrigan been playingsince he arrived... hey you dont have to even go to another forum just read this one mush!!!


average at very best, now go clean those Berrigan coloured specs ready for another average show in the derby...

I live in Australia how am I supposed to know how hes playing?



I watch hull when their on tv and see all available highlights as well as radio commerty.
That's hard enough when do you think I watch st helens?
Not everyones having a go at you

Rubbish. He's completely anonomous these days (just like Berrigan)

Wasn't he player of the year in 2008?

High praise indeed lol

I'm not particularly a Berrigan fan, but that is nonsense. Even his biggest critics admit that he's had some excellent games - in fact that's part of the frustration with him.