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| Quote ="GODS UNDERTAKER"
define "respect" please...
you giveth with one sentence and taketh away with the next.
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| Quote ="GODS UNDERTAKER"wow the pms are hot today'"
The only person to have sent me a PM today is you. Several of them. You are also the only person I have sent any to.
And before you mention it, my IM client isn't even loaded.
Multiple people disagreeing with you doesn't mean a conspiracy. It just means that you have a minority opinion. Which is fine.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Are you suggesting that Briscoe [ididn't[/i muff two kicks? Granted Yeaman wasn't a lot of help either.'"
i am agreeing with you, your correct !!
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| Quote ="Kosh"The only person to have sent me a PM today is you. Several of them. You are also the only person I have sent any to.
And before you mention it, my IM client isn't even loaded.
Multiple people disagreeing with you doesn't mean a conspiracy. It just means that you have a minority opinion. Which is fine.'"
I thought the whole idea of forums was to generate discussion amongst a group of likeminded folk about a common subject?? and within that discussion you will always get comments you agree with and some you dont...
by the way i have sent you in reply three PMs
I never said there was a conspiricy but odd i ask for support about off topic childish name calliing which you decline and then the culprit then apologises?? odd huh
you know shall we go back to rugby for a little part of today do you think, I know your god on here but its better to talk about rugby surely
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| so back on topic, Yeamn , Hall and now Briscoe too are awfull..... gods alive we have issues huh
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| Quote ="GODS UNDERTAKER"I thought the whole idea of forums was to generate discussion amongst a group of likeminded folk about a common subject?? and within that discussion you will always get comments you agree with and some you dont...
by the way i have sent you in reply three PMs
I never said there was a conspiricy but odd i ask for support about off topic childish name calliing which you decline and then the culprit then apologises?? odd huh
you know shall we go back to rugby for a little part of today do you think, I know your god on here but its better to talk about rugby surely'"
If you are referring to me - I made no apology, because nothing I wrote required an apology (being referred to as a south pole elf ffs) and received no pms from anyone. If you're not referring to me then... as you were.
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I put it all down to the weather.....
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| Quote ="Amadeo Avogadro"You have to be the touchiest poster in the history of the internet.'"
Oh I don't know, there was "airborneone". Oh hang on...
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| The OP asks a reasonable question.
Yeaman and Hall both OOC, how many other clubs, thinking of ones aspiring realistically to top 4, will be beating a path to their doors?
Yeaman is solid, and could have a good season if Long stays fit and creates opportunities for him.
Hall needs a run at centre. Playing him on the wing is about as cruel as putting him at FB IMO.
At this moment in time, neither are at the top of the contract renewal prioritisation list. We're woefully short of proven quality in the outside backs and need to fix this as a priority.
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| Quote ="GODS UNDERTAKER"I know your god on here but its better to talk about rugby surely'"
If I were God, you'd be out of a job.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"The OP asks a reasonable question.
Yeaman and Hall both OOC, how many other clubs, thinking of ones aspiring realistically to top 4, will be beating a path to their doors?
Yeaman is solid, and could have a good season if Long stays fit and creates opportunities for him.
Hall needs a run at centre. Playing him on the wing is about as cruel as putting him at FB IMO.
At this moment in time, neither are at the top of the contract renewal prioritisation list. We're woefully short of proven quality in the outside backs and need to fix this as a priority.'"
I'd say that the number of teams interested in Yeaman and Hall will rather strongly depend on how they go this season. Given the small pool of decent GB centres they'll have sides interested in them if they make decent showings.
At the moment I'd say our priority was still a halfback, then the outside backs.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Oh I don't know, there was "airborneone". Oh hang on...'"
not that chestnut again i had all that crap when I first joined months ago grow up
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| Quote ="Kosh"If I were God, you'd be out of a job.'"
I wont reply ,
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"The OP asks a reasonable question.'"
you wouldnt think so after todays barrage huh?
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I put it all down to the weather.....'"
I think that people are venting their frustration on that French ref in the wrong directions. Lot to answer for that bloke.
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| Quote ="Kosh"I'd say that [uthe number of teams interested in Yeaman and Hall will rather strongly depend on how they go this season[/u. Given the small pool of decent GB centres they'll have sides interested in them if they make decent showings.
At the moment I'd say our priority was still a halfback, then the outside backs.'"
Yes, because neither of their stocks are high enough at the moment to warrant being tapped up. IMO. Can you see Hall being sought out to be first choice centre at Leeds, Warrington, Huddersfield or Wigan? Not sure that I can TBH, and I do recognise his attacking potential at centre. I didn't bag Hall after his defensive frailties were exposed against Wigan, because yet again he's out of position. Which is because we've gone into the season with only 1 winger and no clear first choice right centre.
FWIW (not much I know ) as it stands I'd bring in a centre and a winger next season and offload 2 of Yeaman, Hall and Whiting, remembering we've still got Raynor's salary to play with and we've got Turner to cover centre and Lyne/Tuffour on the fringes of the squad.
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| Yeaman would get snapped up straight away,a very good centre who will be our top try scorer again (Don't forget this is with a very poor attacking team),as regards Hall,the lad is a great attacker,but his defense is very suspect,make or break year for him.
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| I havent missed a game yet this season and I dont have any issues when he is defending at centre and with the ball in hand I really believe he is something special. On the wing on Friday however he was badly exposed. It wasnt that he missed or dropped off tackles, he just made bad calls in defence. He got drawn inside far too often by either ball watching or not trusting his centre.
Having said all this, he is a centre and not a winger. Like the OP said, winger is a specialist position and he should not be played there. However, this is not Craig's fault and Agar made a bad call for me.
As for Kirk, I dont see what he has done wrong this season. Ok, maybe he doesnt put his winger away when he should sometimes, but his awesome strength compensates for this. He very rarely gets stopped 10 yards out and his denfence is spot on IMO.
I would not hesitate in giving them both new deals.
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| I know people see Briscoe as a centre, but imo I don't think he is. Or if he played there I think he would just be another Yeaman/Atkins kind of player. I know he's been on the wing but I've still never seen him pass the ball. To me he just doesn't look the type of centre who will be able to put his winger away.
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| Quote ="AlfieMoon"I would not hesitate in giving them both new deals.'"
We've already got Briscoe contracted for 2011+, and Turner to cover centre. Personally I would hesitate to offer both deals when you factor in Whiting and his utility value also and consider we've only Calderwood as a recognised winger and he's OOC too. We miss a player of Raynor's quality in the backs IMO. With Hall, Yeaman, Whiting and Calderwood all OOC, and Raynor's salary to play with, this is a good opportunity to sort out the backs as we've sorted out the forwards in the last close season.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"We've already got Briscoe contracted for 2011+, and Turner to cover centre. Personally I would hesitate to offer both deals when you factor in Whiting and his utility value also and consider we've only Calderwood as a recognised winger and he's OOC too. We miss a player of Raynor's quality in the backs IMO. With Hall, Yeaman, Whiting and Calderwood all OOC, and Raynor's salary to play with, this is a good opportunity to sort out the backs as we've sorted out the forwards in the last close season.'"
You've obviously thought about the contract situation in far more depth than I have , all good points.
I personally would give a contract to Hall before Whiting. I know a lot on here are big Whiting fans and I like him as a player too. BUT Tansey is our fullback, for me Whiting is too slow to play in the outside backs, I dont see him figuring at halfback again for us and he has no chance of ever playing in our back row. I think he is good with the ball, very good defensively.......just too slow.
For me, Craig Hall has the potential to be a very good centre. Good pace, excellent hands, great eye for a gap and a very good finisher. We all know that he sometimes struggles defensively, but to me that is more to do with positioning rather than dropping off tackles.
I still think Yeaman is one of best centres in SL and would be snapped up in an instant if he was allowed to go OOC.
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| Quote ="GODS UNDERTAKER"you wouldnt think so after todays barrage huh?
'" TBH mate, and i mean no offence, but you do bring it on yourself.
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| Quote ="R.B.A"I think that people are venting their frustration on that French ref in the wrong directions. Lot to answer for that bloke.'"
The French are to blame for a lot of the worlds problems!!
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