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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"The fans have a right to voice their opinions. The players are happy to take the plaudits when things are going well. They are not immune from criticism
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But according to your earlier post, the coach isn't allowed to voice his opinion???
Yep, that seems fair
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| Quote ="suedehead."Agar hasn't said anything wrong!!! whether or not you rate him as a coach doesn't come into it, the team do need support from the fans.
We are becoming more like the wire fans each week. Disgraceful behaviour.'"
Yeah and look what happened there, they got smith in and now look at them on the up and still in the challenge cup if only we was so lucky!!!
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| Quote ="spegs"Agars response to the fans booing:
"Were all frustrated and it's a tough time. We have got a nervous team that is low on confidence and it's not helping"
Listen you f*cking idiot, the team is low on confidence because they have no leader, they have no leader because you are out of your depth, you are out of your depth because you do not have the ability to coach a team at this level. The rugby we play is p*ss poor and it IS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY to sort this.
I am not sure if it is a lack of intelligence or plain ignorance but take a look in the mirror, then leave my club alone.'"
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| Quote ="barton baird"Put that way,I can see where you are coming from,but I still find it hard to CHEER opposing teams.'" There were no cheers, just a polite round of applause followed by a round of laughter after O'Hara gave the South stand the thumbs up. Why did the Southstand feel the need to applaud the opposition? Because there was only one team on the bloody pitch who gave a , and it wasn't FC.
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| Look at it this way, those that went last night had every right to applaud the Celtic try. Let's face it, it was hardly a night of entertaining rugby and full of grit and determination was it?
The commentators struggled to concentrate on the game it was that poor, so when Celtic scored it was one of the highlights of the game, and IMO rightly got applauded.
At the end of the day if you pay your money you have the right to cheer anyone you like. If Agar DID critisize the fans then he is a fool and is walking a tightrope. The thing is fans have long memories and they will always have this at the back of their minds now.
Not many coaches in any sport get to stay in a job very much longer once they start critiscizing the fans. In fact Megson at Bolton is the only one i can think of (and he had a right to have a go at the fans after the way he was treat by them)
The board are not stupid and they know the fans are fed up with the dross that has been served up for the majority of the last 17 games. To confound it the coach then appears to have a dig at them. I feel his time is now up.
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| Quote ="bexandy-FC"There were no cheers, just a polite round of applause followed by a round of laughter after O'Hara gave the South stand the thumbs up. Why did the Southstand feel the need to applaud the opposition? Because there was only one team on the bloody pitch who gave a poop, and it wasn't FC.'"
I am not going to labour the point,as people can do what they like,but where I was in the east stand,I could hear cheering when Celts scored the try.Maybe my age is getting to me and I am hearing things.
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| Last week Agar publicly stated that some of the players are not making rugby a high enough priority. He effectively said that the players aren't showing enough commitment. What did he expect the fans' reaction to be?
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| Quote ="wolfie"dont you say this every week
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Yes , And we still get the same performance every week !
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| Quote ="Bigger Daddy"Last week Agar publicly stated that some of the players are not making rugby a high enough priority. He effectively said that the players aren't showing enough commitment. What did he expect the fans' reaction to be?'"
Especially when he seems to not do anything about their lacklustre performances. He makes excuses like they arent his players, they arent up for games, he'll drop the under performers and then he doesnt.
And now to knock the fans, he can f*ck off now for me, ive had enough.
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| I clapped when Celtic scored their try, and if it annoyed our team or Agar then good, it just might shake them up a bit more, as fan's we deserve better than what the coaqch and the players have been dishing up, as for Agar critisizing the fan's behaviour from last night's game, who the hell does he think he is, we've put up with his terrible boring coaching for long enough and it's about time the fan's feelings have been noticed maybe some note will be taken now, Suspend him, give someone else a chance to coach the last remaining games, (Lasty), and see if their is any difference to the game.
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| If Agar and his merry men could actually give us some kind of performance rather then the crap we saw for 70 minutes last night then the fans may not get on the players back until then it isn't going to happen, one of the highlights of the night was one of the water carriers falling over, pretty much tells you everything you need about last night doesn't it.
Whilst the team play with no idea's, no passion and no pride then the fans have every right to have a go
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"He has every right to go on record with it if it affects tghe performance on the pitch.
Never thought I would see the day that a Hull team or a Hull player were boo'ed whilst actually playing by our own fans. At the end of a game or on a discussion forum is one thing, but being slated by those who claim to follow you through thick and thin whilst they are trying to do something about it shows how poor some of the fans are.
Well, this is most definately a thin time. What ever happend to supporting the 13 out there in black and white. Or is this the reaction of those fans who think we have some divine right to win or have never known the really bad times.
FFS START SUPPORTING THE TEAM WHILST THEIR PLAYING.
SLATE THEM ALL YOU LIKE AFTERWARDS!!'"
I've been to plenty of games where the team were boo'd far more than they were last night, including games at the boulevard. I didn't boo last night, never have, and I didn't bother joining in with the slow handclaps, but wouldn't criticise those who did.
The players and coaching staff are reaping the rewards for the shiite they have sown all season. I have no sympathy for them. Plenty of people go without other luxuries to watch the team and they deserve better
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"But according to your earlier post, the coach isn't allowed to voice his opinion???
Yep, that seems fair
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Absolutely right. the coach should keep his opinions on the fans to himself. He's paid to coach the team not to try and deflect blame from himself by blaming anyone who he can think of. Last week the players, this week the fans. Who will it be next week?
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Absolutely right. the coach should keep his opinions on the fans to himself. He's paid to coach the team not to try and deflect blame from himself by blaming anyone who he can think of. Last week the players, this week the fans. Who will it be next week?'"
Rovers for mullering us.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Absolutely right. the coach should keep his opinions on the fans to himself. He's paid to coach the team not to try and deflect blame from himself by blaming anyone who he can think of. Last week the players, this week the fans. Who will it be next week?'" blacklock
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| 'in any kind of weather' my ! Time to change your song. Some of you 'fans' are a discrace to your club.
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| Quote ="1865"If Agar and his merry men could actually give us some kind of performance rather then the crap we saw for 70 minutes last night then the fans may not get on the players back until then it isn't going to happen, one of the highlights of the night was one of the water carriers falling over, pretty much tells you everything you need about last night doesn't it.Whilst the team play with no idea's, no passion and no pride then the fans have every right to have a go'"
Yes that was an entertaining moment, my favorite was the plastic bag that was flying about in front of South stand for about 3 mins, boy it could move.
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| Quote ="black and Whiteley"Yes that was an entertaining moment, my favorite was the plastic bag that was flying about in front of South stand for about 3 mins, boy it could move.
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| I am thankful Agar wasn't talking about me. I stayed away last niight. I really have lost my passion and enthusiasm and can think of more entertaining ways of spending my money. After 30 years of support I am struggling to live upto In any kind of weather because I don't have "an unlimited amount of cash for entertainment"
I will still go to games, but until I feel my team give 100% I cannot give them the same commitment.
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| Quote ="joburg"'in any kind of weather' my booty! Time to change your song. Some of you 'fans' are a discrace to your club.'"
Any kind of weather means following them come what may. It doesn't mean we do not have the right to get on the back of our team if we feel they are not giving it their all.
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| I think this problem has been exacerbated by Agar and the board. For the last 3 seasons they've been telling us what a great squad we have, and how we'll be in a position to win things. They have built up false expectations by over hyping average signings and pretending our existing players are competitive. Most fans have swallowed all this excrement for a long time but as they say, you can't fool all of the people all of the time.
In regards to booing our own team, I didn't myself because I had absolutely no expectations going into the game. I see ourselves as the 3rd worst team in the league and I think we play like the 3rd worst side. To expect anymore of this squad and coaching set up would be daft. I don't have a problem with others booing the team and think Agar can only condemn them when he starts paying an admission fee himself.
On the whole, I don't think there was a real lack of effort from the players, just a lack of ideas. I was very impressed with Sam Moa and Calderwood, and I liked Moa's interaction with the crowd at the end. However, even with the new signings next year, we won't have a great deal of improvement in us under this current regime.
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| Its alright saying that the players need our support but we've being giving that for the last 16weeks which has only seen us beat cas, salford and celtic. Maybe its about time the fans got a little bit of encouragement, or some 'return' for their investment, from the club.
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| Quote ="joburg"'in any kind of weather' my booty! Time to change your song. Some of you 'fans' are a discrace to your club.'"
It is a challenge to anybodies patience when you are served dross.But the majority still turn up,moaning or not.
Thank you for your concern anyway.
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"But according to your earlier post, the coach isn't allowed to voice his opinion???
Yep, that seems fair
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It may not seem fair, but it's the way it has to be. Regardless of how Agar may feel he shouldn't be publicly slating the fans. It has never done anything but harm and it never will.
There were any number of other ways he could have made a point about support and confidence without slagging off the people who, ATEOTD, pay his wages and the wages of his under-performing squad.
The fact that he couldn't or chose not to do so says volumes about his professionalism and ability to handle pressure.
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| Dont know why your getting upset Kosh, it wasnt aimed at you
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