Does anyone remember Agar's quote in the HDM after the Cas game? It went something like this:

"It's a setback, but the big test is how we respond to it."

Well, that's that one answered.

Conversley they are all capable of dropping clanger defensively.

didnt see any of that tonite, 2 ordinary sets of forwards. a scrum half thats good enuff will dictate play.

agree about Manu tho

Crocker would give us,exactly what we've lacked in the last 2 games.

Aggression,leadership and determination.

A 7 would help, but nobody of any note is available at the moment.

Yup. Only issue is they only ever get the chance to show those defesive frailties and dont get the chance to offset that against their attacking play. When they do they look ok. G Horne took 3 tries well last week, Hall put Yeamo in well tonight etc etc.

Just far too little of it happens.

No not really. I would ask your coach why he didnt adopt the same kick and DEAD chase as Quins. They decided to kick dead and defend on a poor pitch on a number of occasions.

Helps when youve got a lead to defend!!

First sensible thing you've said tonight!

I would rather have a very good 7 than Crocker atm. I think the signing of Crocker would just complicate things more.

Yes, but it wasnt much, but it was done well.

Quite simple questions really.

Where was the urgency?

Where was the will to succeed?

Where was the enthusiasm they showed in the first 5 games?

Where was the backing up?

Return to last season i'm afraid.

Add to that:

Interchanges - what the f*ck?

too many average players that are simply not up to it,said the same last year and ill say it again.g.horne,hall and lee, not sure about houghton ,just cant see him making it to be honest.manu should never start a game,should always be on the bench,waste of a good impact player.

G Horne has been solid all year.

Hall has had one stinker, two or three good games and a couple of ok games.

Lee probably won't make it at this level, I'd agree.

Houghton will be a very very good hooker in another year or two.

When we get more options in the second row, I'd expect Manu to revert to being a bench player. Unless Agar has another baffling interchange policy up his sleeve.

why drop Thackeray, hes been okay the games hes played.

Don't know. His footwork at the line tonight would have been useful. A mistake made there in my opinion.

Funny enough this was Jon Sharp tactics at Giants.

been at work, just got in and was surprised that Thacks had been dropped. could have done with his go forward

g.horne and hall will not make it,hornes not up to it at centre,hall is to light and always looks frightened to take it in hard,not enough upper body strenghth.really need a quality scrum half and a centreand more power up front,sams totally out of his depth.and probably a quality full back,not much needs changing really.

Harlequins are a well organised, highly efficient outfit who do the simple things right. They make teams look bad.

They are very effective but not particularly eye catching. They make the best out of what they've got. So when you've lost to them you go away thinking you must have been rubbish.

It'll happen to others too. It's best to play them when their small squad is stretched too far. Give the Quins some credit.

Didn't they concede 46 points last week?

Quins were the (slightly) better of two extremely sh*t sides tonight.

so after tonight you make that decision, was that the same opinion when we were winning.

Horne has been okay at centre so far,