It is speculation about the Rovers comments yes, but we'll see who had their last chances by who is in the 17 at the start of next season.

I was actually referring to throughout the season. Admittedly at some times our options were limited for changes, but I just personally thought it seemed a little off that it was the same faces who got dropped after poor performances from most of the team. It's almost as if Agar didn't have the stones to mix things up like he suggested was needed, I hope with more players fit this coming season (

) I'll be proved wrong.

I'm not.

I cant wait to see Horne and Thorman as our halves

Think you will be very suprised as a lot of people will be

Aftr the KR game David Hall was in my face about what Agar had said, who he said it to, and how he said it, he was under no illusions as to who it was directed at and in what manner it was done
He also said that Agar had lost quite a bit of credibility within the dressing room, but that is typical of a red n white parting shot at FC, but believe me he was fuming at the finger pointing.

I dont.

Because Richard Horne is playing full back?

I dont understand why people think a combo of Thorman Horne will work.

Thorman will bring a good kicking game that is it. Nothing else.

But hey we shall see.

Because a lot of people wear FC specs, as you know Scott.

Because they once played well together years ago in a game for Yorkshire.

Stands to reason that they will reproduce that form every week in SL.

Doesn't it?

To be honest, I am a little worried of the partnership, Granted the only evidence of the partnership is the 1 sided origin game quite a few years back but with the players getting older who knows. I keep praying we have a party piece up our sleave but if not, I will be there anyway backing the lads.I agree we need to wait and see but as people have pointed out wats the plan B if it doesn't work. (Jeez I think that is my most negative FC post ever)


Yes I do wear the black and white tinted specs most of the time and can tell you to have a try in the club shop and whilst your at it get your wallets/purses etc out and splash the cash on what is an excellent merchandise collection (thankfully this second part has balanced my FC Karma for the day)

Not negative its a good post without fc specs on which alot of people have on 24/7 as Standee said.

If/When the Thorman/Horne combo doesnt work who will we look to ? Tommy Lee ?

Greg Bird!

Nobody. We will keep it like that until the end of the season regardless of it being a success or failure.

Probably right Robbo.

And organiastion skills, something we havent had since Cooke left.

I think they will work well, not brilliant, but the one year deal allows Thorman too prove he is worth keeping in 2010.

Even if he stays I think we will sign a SH for 2010.

If as claimed by Jon Sharp and others that Thorman is a vocal player on the field then he will bring in something which we lack, as well as a semblance of a kicking game. Sharp commented that Hull is a quiet team and it needs to change - it's a root cause of our obvious lack of organisation last year. Ideally we'd want more than that from a half but may have to wait a year for that so we get on with it. I'm sure with Motu as our third pivot, pivoting all over the place at the back, we'll be OK.

Which is a concern, I hope we don't get another season of "interesting" substitutions and tactical changes.

Thats a very good point actually. I think people are looking at how poor we were in attack last year and forgetting we were missing our first choice 1,6,7,9 (when Berro was moved) and 13 (washy had to play at 6 most of the year) for most of the season. No wonder we lacked any sort of organisation.

Aye, pretty much how I see it also.

You cant forget pre-planned substitutions based on time, regardless of how the player is actually performing.

We played our best last season when Dykes was on the field, and that was because he was a gobby sod!

My prediction is Albo will walk after a few games and Jon-Boy will take over .

Yer but how often was he on the field?

At lesat with Thorman, we have a player who has had a good injury record. He may not be the best, but if he's on the park, I'm sure he will make a very big contribution to the team