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| Quote ="BalearicHullFan"Well I wouldn't write him off, but it is a concern given that he has been assistant coach during some of our worst times.
However hopefully he will get a bit of luck injury wise and this will give him the freedom to coach that he needs.'"
and we should judge him on games when he is in charge, there was a definite improvement yesterday.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"But regardless of who's responsible for recruitment, the 4 main selling points of a club are always:
1. Money
2. Potential to win trophies
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We don't offer good money, we are currently a bottom 3 team, we now have an unproven/unknown (overseas recruitment) coach, and the place is commonly considered a craphole. Tell me how you'd convince a player to choose us with those restrictions in place.'"
totally agree, Dobbins dont appear to have a problem mind.
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| Quote ="Matty_HullFC"What exactly did he do wrong? Took us to a GF, Took us to 4th after losing our playmaker then 2nd to bottom after not having a near fit squad all season?
This has England written all over it for me, and we all know things got a whole lot worse for England. Anyway, he has the chance to prove me wrong.'"
He took us backwards in a big way, we haven;t played any expansive rugby since he has been in charge, his only saving grace is with the injuries we had hiding the fact he will only ever be an assistant.
As for losing our playmaker any half decent coach would have a decent enough backup playmaker, a thing he still didn;t manage to do this season after we got dykes in. He could maybe use the excuse he thought Horne would cover the position well enough if needed, but we found that not to be the case.
This year we lack ideas in the redzone as was highlighted on Sunday when we actually had a lot of possesion in the redzone and still failed to capitalise because of the lack of a playmaker. We cannot rely on Dykes playing every game and if they looked into his previous injuries they would have realised this and signed a reasonable backup player. To me that is a coaches job, wether he signs the players or not he needs to be able to say we need a winger a centre 2 playmakers etc to the board. Hopefully Agar can see where we are losing games and put it right.
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| Quote ="Standee"Sounds like we have taken the cheap option yet again, Agar has been involved with Sharp so he shoulders some respobsibility, can't imagine why we haven't given him the rest of this season to prove himself and then looked at a new contract, or was he always going to replace Sharp when the end of the season came?
Seems the trip to Aus was really just a jolly.'"
Exactly, if he had some good ideas they would have been used.
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| Quote ="simonhullfc"totally agree, Dobbins dont appear to have a problem mind.'"
See points 1 and 3.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"See points 1 and 3.'"
Point 1 is the over welming factor in my mind.
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| Will Andy Last be promoted to assistant?
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| Quote ="BalearicHullFan"it is a concern given that he has been assistant coach during some of our worst times.
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But then again I suppose you could look at Brian Kidd and Steve McClaren and say they were both at Man Utd under Ferguson during the success they have had over the last 10-15 years and neither of them ahve really gone on to be successful on their own.
If your going to be a success you have to have the skills and ability needed to start with regardless, whether you were a No.2 during successful or unsuccessful times.
Agar has the skills and ability from what I hear and now both he and the club feel the time is right for him to coach and lead the club forward as the head coach.
Good luck Rich, I hope your appointment is the start of a successful new dawn for us.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Will Andy Last be promoted to assistant?'"
Seems like the most likley combo.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Will Andy Last be promoted to assistant?'"
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| Well done hull
Great to see a british coach get his shot
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| Quote ="Matty_HullFC"TBH, it's obvious times are bad when the best counter argument to people not happy with the appointment you can come up with is "Won't you be going anymore".'"
im right though,if certain people need to be on suicide watch cos of riches appointment then they wont want to give him the backing will they,the last words sharp said to agar before he left was good luck rich hope you get the job you deserve it,he never thought of going elsewere other then staying at hull,hes a highly regarded coach in the game hence the job offers he has been offered,also the guy has turned down the chance of a lifetime job workingg with tony smith and the gb accademy,was gunna be going to aussie,that proves to me were his heart lies,good luck to the bloke im sure he will do the bussiness for us and get us back to were we belong.
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| good luck rich, you'll have my full backing, onwards & upwards!!
murray as DOR anyone??
at least stevo will be happy now!
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| Quote ="wolfie"im right though,if certain people need to be on suicide watch cos of riches appointment then they wont want to give him the backing will they,the last words sharp said to agar before he left was good luck rich hope you get the job you deserve it,he never thought of going elsewere other then staying at hull,hes a highly regarded coach in the game hence the job offers he has been offered,also the guy has turned down the chance of a lifetime job workingg with tony smith and the gb accademy,was gunna be going to aussie,that proves to me were his heart lies,good luck to the bloke im sure he will do the bussiness for us and get us back to were we belong.'"
top post wolfie. and on that note good luck rich......
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| i am too pleased a british coach back at hull
Murray will end up at wire
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| Quote ="XxHONEYxX"i am too pleased a british coach back at hull
Murray will end up at wire'"
Murray?
I doubt it. But who knows.
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| Not sure if this was the right way to go, it doesn't seem to screem out ambition. I always thought Sharp wouldn't do such a good job as his experience of being head coach was not exactly inspiring, I thought the signing of either Murray or Folkes would have been a very good appointment. But hey, Agar deserves your backing as he has done a good job for you guys.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Will Andy Last be promoted to assistant?'"
who knows,if he does who will take charge of the young kids?
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| Andy Last would be great as assistent..
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| Quote ="wolfie"who knows,if he does who will take charge of the young kids?'"
I would imagine some promotion within the club, Last to assistant, with maybe Mcnicolas taking over the under 21's and someone appointted to help run the 18's.
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| No wonder the game is full of Aussie coaches when a decent young coach is being written off after 1 game (a game when we showed big improvements) What is our obsession with it having to be an Aussie coach? He has served his time as a number 2 give him a chance to prove he has what it takes, now is the time to try out an untested coach he has this season and the whole of next season to show he is the right man for the job. There is not the worry of relegation, so it is the perfect opportunity to try him.
What strikes me as odd is that a lot of these writing Agar off already were more than willing to accept Mcnamara as coach when we went for him, a coach who was also untested.
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| I have mixed feelings.
On the negative side I do worry about the length of time he has been at the club and his closeness with the players. We needed a totally fresh approach and some backsides needed kicking and I not sure RA can go that after being no.2 for so long. Also I think a new proven Aussie would have been able to tell the board what he would and would not accept whereas with RA I feel that the club will have complete control over him.
On the positive side he is young, talented and British and its good to see people like that getting a chance. He will now have the chance to implement his own style of rugby league too and his philosophy will hopefully be a more attack minded one. He seems like a really great guy and certainly understand the fans and the club too.
Only time will tell if its a good decision but I feel the negatives outweigh the positives just now although I will be delighted if he can prove to be a success.
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| Last isnt ready yet.
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| Quote ="Dave K."I would imagine some promotion within the club, Last to assistant, with maybe Mcnicolas taking over the under 21's and someone appointted to help run the 18's.'"
I would imagine Lasty will get the nod as the no.2 and I would be happy with that.
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| Was hoping for Steve Folkes originally, but looking on the positives Agar will give us some stability and has worked with all the players, so hopefully will now be able to stamp his mark on the team.
Good luck Mr Agar!
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