Ticket income is over estimated for me

Considering the SMC get a decent cut of anything over 8500.
Lets say we have 8500 pass holders with a 75/25 split (adult/kids)

210 average on adult passes = 6375*210 = 1,338,750
£50 kids = 2125*50= 106,250

Total of 1,445,000 an extra 5500 tickets per game at a lesser rate is not going to generate another 1.3m

Because Rule Didn't say that back in early January he said they hoped for season ticket sales of 10,000 and in the next sentence said but whatever happens we will be spending up to the cap again! That estimation on Sky money is way too low too its nmore like double that!

Are you suggesting RP's talking ssssssshhhhhhhiiiiiittttttteeeeeeee?

Super League clubs get over 1M from Sky as far as I'm aware. Also why do people keep quoting that the SMC take a percentage after a certain amount of fans. This is not the case and hasn't been for a few years now. That was the original deal, but was renegotiated a few years ago

Didn't know about the renegotiation to be fair. So whats the deal now? Do we just pay X amount regardless of attendances??

Well Im sure your right, like the time you told us about Crocker.



Since when have I come on here and spread rumours?

I talk alot about your players and coach but thats about it.

I never said rumours just sssshhhiittteeee!!!!

You dont do bad yourself!

Nice one RP.

No More than usual look at his back catalogue of posts its a list of em! This is another occassion when he doesn't hear something properly he just hears what he wants to! and then makes it up

Week in week out I try to best guess rumours etc many of which are way wide of the mark, and yet he has to go all the way back to to crocker, Shows his manic side really I've posted a lot of rubbish since then but if thats all he can remember says it all really!!

I have been saying your team is garbage for years now and finally some are starting to see it lol

The Crocker incident did show you up to be full of it though!!!

Anyway.

Rumours....

I can't see anymore players coming in for this season, so we'll probably announce some signings when we get knocked out of the cup, lose to hkr, get knocked out of the playoffs (if we make them).

Can't wait!

the only rumour we want to hear about is when Agar is going to be clearing his desk, Kath f**ks off back to Leeds and Rool gets demoted to tea boy.

well if thats it for the season regarding signings then im pretty sure that we are nowhere near the full salary cap which isnt good enough for this club and i feel the transfer fees that were paid out maybe used from the cap

You'll be waiting along time for it.

I could put your team was garbage for 20 years but that would be the same drivel you put on here everyday.

i know, u can but dream,

Don't take my word for it, t'was only a guess.

A few years ago. When we sold the Derby out really quickly and could have sold a lot more. I asked the question to the SMC. How much money has Hull lost with not being able to sell to capacity, and was told Hull had lost nothing. It was the SMC only that had lost money. So either we pay a set figure or we get everything below a certain figure and the SMC get everything above that figure

As far as i`m aware i believe we pay nothing to the SMC for a crwd upto 7,500, after that we pay a percentage to the SMC (about 3% i think)

That was the old deal. It would also mean that not to be able to sell KC to capacity would have effected Hull financially. like I said Hull didnt lose a penny for that game, despite the KC being over 2000 short of capacity

30%?




So you're saying that above a certain level [iall[/i the money goes to the SMC?

That would seem to be a strange way to structure a deal - for both parties. Perhaps they meant Hull FC get a rebate, when they can't use the full stadium?

As far as i remember from when it was set up the deal is something like:

Hull FC retain all ticket income up to a total, something like 100,000 for the year.

Over that the ticket take is spilt 50/50

So the figure of 7500 has changed as our number of home games changed, so its currently an average of 7692.

So basically if we sell out the first 4 games of the season 25k then every ticket for the rest of the season is split 50/50

Thats why the deal is a millstone round our necks, we get 182000 through the gate a year, we cant do quid tickets, cos half would have to go to the SMC

As for "booze n food" (both used in the loosest term) we get everthing up to our levels of sales from the Boulevard days as dead cert income, aftert that we get a tiny %age

That is pretty much in line with what I thought - might have been you that told me, in fact. Millstone is one way of looking at it - on the other hand Hull FC are pretty well insulated from a downturn in crowds. Given the situation now, I can imagine a different deal suiting both parties - politically and/or economically. All off-topic speculation anyway...