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| Quote ="carl_spackler"If the visa's the big issue, how does it remotely matter what Cas do with the goalposts?'"
Cant believe people are taking mcpringles word as gospil
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"If the visa's the big issue, how does it remotely matter what Cas do with the goalposts?'"
initially according to James the deal agreed was that they would just release him from his contract but then they started asking for a fee, but eventually it has come down to the visa, simple really.
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| I'm puzzled I must admit. If Chase rocks up in SA next week then there's no application in progress, so I guess we'll know a bit more then.
Also interested whether he might have a case for restraint of trade if UKBA are saying his conviction means he cannot change employer while in the UK. What happens if his relationship with Cas breaks down and he cannot move to another employer at all? Especially if he now has family here and therefore a potential Human Rights claim,
Can't imagine the RFL have refused to endorse the move either
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| Quote ="JedRust"initially according to James the deal agreed was that they would just release him from his contract but then they started asking for a fee, but eventually it has come down to the visa, simple really.'"
For a start I don't believe for a second that Cas would have parted with Chase for nothing.
Secondly, I just don't see why McRae would be angry about something that doesn't matter. It's like a cyclist being outraged at the price of petrol in case he ever passes his driving test and then manages to get a car.
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| Quote ="Chris28"Puzzling.'"
Indeed, many more questions than answers at the moment.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"For a start I don't believe for a second that Cas would have parted with Chase for nothing.
Secondly, I just don't see why McRae would be angry about something that doesn't matter. It's like a cyclist being outraged at the price of petrol in case he ever passes his driving test and then manages to get a car.'"
I don't understand it either in terms of why it matters I am just posting what James has said - his answer in reply to someone asking why they would let him go for free -
James Smailes - not for me to explain why, but trust me they were about to. Cud argue why wud they sell 1 of their best?
Don't shoot the messenger
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| Quote ="JedRust"I don't understand it either in terms of why it matters I am just posting what James has said - his answer in reply to someone asking why they would let him go for free -
James Smailes - not for me to explain why, but trust me they were about to. Cud argue why wud they sell 1 of their best?
Don't shoot the messenger'"
Oh I appreciate you're just relaying what others have said, didn't to come across as if I was having a go at you. I just find it hard to believe.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"Oh I appreciate you're just relaying what others have said, didn't to come across as if I was having a go at you. I just find it hard to believe.'"
Same here I don't understand it either but I don't know what he would get out of lying ?
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| Quote ="JedRust"Same here I don't understand it either but I don't know what he would get out of lying ?'"
this is Smailes we are talking about!
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| Quote ="JedRust"Same here I don't understand it either but I don't know what he would get out of lying ?'"
He doesn't have to be lying, he could just be wrong in good faith.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"He doesn't have to be lying, he could just be wrong in good faith.'"
fair enough leave it there then its not happening anyway so we can all move on
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| As I understand it it is a bit of both the Visa issue and a move of the goalposts by Cas. Initially Cas were willing to just release him to get him off the wage bill and Hull started proceedings to change his Visa. This as we know was a major sticking point but Hull were ready to challenge this. Then Cas got a new CEO who didn't agree with giving him away for nothing and slapped a fee on his head. Progress will the visa was slow going and becoming costly so Hull were not willing to pay both the costly legal fees as well as a transfer fee. So will both Cas & Hull standing their ground Hull have decided to pull the deal as it was getting too costly to persue and not much headway was being made with UKBA. The likelihood is that Chase will not get a new visa next year and will have to leave these shores anyway, Cas now have to now either find the money (reportedly around 170K) to pay him for the next 12 months or cash in a lower fee and sell him to an NRL team.
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| Quote ="Theboyem"As I understand it it is a bit of both the Visa issue and a move of the goalposts by Cas. Initially Cas were willing to just release him to get him off the wage bill and Hull started proceedings to change his Visa. This as we know was a major sticking point but Hull were ready to challenge this. Then Cas got a new CEO who didn't agree with giving him away for nothing and slapped a fee on his head. Progress will the visa was slow going and [ubecoming costly[/u so Hull were not willing to pay both the costly legal fees as well as a transfer fee. So will both Cas & Hull standing their ground Hull have decided to pull the deal as it was getting too costly to persue and not much headway was being made with UKBA. The likelihood is that Chase will not get a new visa next year and will have to leave these shores anyway, Cas now have to now either find the money (reportedly around 170K) to pay him for the next 12 months or cash in a lower fee and sell him to an NRL team.'"
So the fees were not set out at the start? Or they were increased halfway through? No wonder Hull weren't willing to pay.
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| Right then, next option. Who do we want then or does anyone know who we might be in for?
Where are you Unupposed?
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| I may have missed it in previous pages, but if Chase can't renew his visa next year, can he still represent England/GB on English soil ?
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| hes the best in super league in that position by a mile and if Shaun(talk sh*t)mcrae is telling the truth then AP should stick to his word and pay a transfer fee
imo its a big lie and something is going to be announced hopefully by gentle or AP not that muppet
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| Quote ="FC Guvnor"I may have missed it in previous pages, but if Chase can't renew his visa next year, can he still represent England/GB on English soil ?'"
Will be very difficult for him
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| Quote ="Chris28"Will be very difficult for him'"
As i previously said.. What if chase doesn't get another visa for castleford.. I no they can buy out his contract but if they can't afford it. He'll be a contracted player who can't get in the country
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| Quote ="Standee"McRae brings nothing to Hull FC, he's caused us more problems than he's given solutions.'"
I hope you are excluding Agar, Hindley and Bradey when you are accusing McRae of causing FC problems
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| So, other than minor fees for watts and arundell, we've not shelled out for anyone and won't be.
The recruitment was always going to be underwhelming after talk of paea, taylor, chase, bateman and whitehead came to nothing.
Still, at least we have jason crookes signed up
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"So, other than minor fees for watts and arundell, we've not shelled out for anyone and won't be.
The recruitment was always going to be underwhelming after talk of paea, taylor, chase, bateman and whitehead came to nothing.
[uStill, at least we have jason crookes signed up[/u'"
Not forgetting the pensioner from Caravan Park.
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| Has Taylor defo gone to pies?
Have we announced Shannon Matthews?
Dobbo, £150k transfer fee anyone?
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| Quote ="frepneyboy"Have we announced Shannon Matthews?'"
She got kidnapped by her mum didn't she?
If its her, I hope not...
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| I am fairly new to the forum, posted 3 or 4 times in the past, but have been watching Hull for 34 years (sh*t thats an awful long time ) but what I have learnt is most who post really know nothing or at best guess well. I have contacts too who are close to Hull but as professionals do not tell you what is confidential so you only gets hints of the truth and I would not expect them to.
The point is Rangi would have been fantastic but I suspest it will not happen . But whoever we get or not I will still be watching. Hoping we can win every game, despite what the head says the heart will always rule.
Suppose what I am saying is I truly believe we have a better side next year,witha bit of luck and honerable and skillful coach, we may be challanging for honours regardless of who else arrives or not.
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| Quote ="WIZEB"Not forgetting the pensioner from Caravan Park.'"
Shhhhhhh now!!! Do ya not know PG will get the best from them and all will be great next year!!
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