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| Quote ="MPhil12"This makes it even worse. Unforgivable and completely avoidable. Tevita Pangai was sacked for a much less serious breach. I would argue the player in question here deserves the same punishment.'"
What?
Are you acting as Judge, jury and executioner on something that so far is nothing more than pure guess work by the club.
![Laughing icon_lol.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_lol.gif) What a dip stick
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| Quote ="bonaire"It was reported by the club that the player whoever he is,is currently injured and took his young child to Hospital.Nothing wrong with that in my opinion if you take the precautions set out.
However when he visited the club physio ( dont know the timeline after the hospital visit) he reported not feeling well.This is were the player should have shown more care and attention.
Knowing you dont feel 100% for what ever reason and the protocols in place for Covid 19 at the club he should have telephoned the club for advice before attending the training centre for treatment.
It all hindsight now and damage is done but im sure the club have put further protocols in place to ensure any player not feeling well reports his condition before reporting for training or treatment'"
He might of felt fine before he visited the club physio, and perhaps started to feel unwell during his physio
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| Quote ="48756c6c20 524c4643"How can you kill something that has never being isolated as a virus strain?
why go to all the trouble and expense when other measures are far more effective at protecting the vulnerable, are less invasive, has huge longer term benefits and works for not just respiratory diseases but all sorts of issues, it also reduces Health costs massively more without all the BS of locking down and ineffective mask wearing.
Healthy individuals are extremely rarely vulnerable to viruses, it's usually because they have underlying health conditions, 2 people from the 20-40 age groups out of the whole of England's population have died WITH a positive test for something that the test cannot tell what that is. that's over the last 4 weeks.
Compared t last year it's ridiculously fewer deaths and has been since the start of the year and continued being lower throughout, and deaths from respiratory diseases are at a low for at least the last 6 years and never rose above last years 'good' flu year (check ONS register of deaths if you like to confirm that)
Wearing a mask has proven NOT to be a confidence boost, the complete opposite in fact, it means there is danger, it means more restrictions for something that we know factually has less effect/kills significantly fewer people than flu and pneumonia.'"
“Healthy individuals are extremely rarely vulnerable to viruses”. What a silly statement! And that’s me being polite. Ebola, SARS, HIV, BLACK DEATH. Sadly there’s been loads.
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| Quote ="Isaiah"What?
Are you acting as Judge, jury and executioner on something that so far is nothing more than pure guess work by the club.
What a dip stick'"
remember MrPhil is a Rovers troll.
Whatever the circumstance, it was always going to happen, just unfortunate for us that we are the headline at the moment. I am certain nobody did anything deliberate, the season should just be cancelled if there is a level of concern.
If you took (not you personally) 30 people off the street and tested them, 50% would test positive. Herd Immunity is what will help us all, but we are not going to get rid of the virus. HIV, SARSetc. all still exist, we have learnt how to manage them. Flu is still a bigger threat than anything other than cancer, and that comes in various forms as well.
A bit like the film Dodgeball, duck, dive, dodge, don"t let it hit you, if it does, sit out a round and come back stronger.
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| Has Adam Swift tested possitive for Covid 19 ? Just asking....
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| if it`s a new born baby that MIGHT have it,i realy truly hope the little one is going to be alright.
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| Quote ="Budgiezilla"Has Adam Swift tested possitive for Covid 19 ? Just asking....'"
We don't know
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| Quote ="Plum Bob"“Healthy individuals are extremely rarely vulnerable to viruses”. What a silly statement! And that’s me being polite. Ebola, SARS, HIV, BLACK DEATH. Sadly there’s been loads.'"
So you're upset at some grammar, whatever, rather you're bothered by the fact that I've exposed how low the risk is to players and you don't like it. That the risk in populations is =/< influenza, and this year is significantly lower than last years good flu year tells you al you need to know regards 'risk', not just for players and their families, for clubs' backroom staff, but indeed the fans whom wish to watch their teams live.
There simply isn't any risk over and above any normal year, as I said, it's factually LESS risk, the data proves this (and proves the government is lying) and that measures are totally unnecessary. Six 'positives', whatever that actually means tells you nothing except that a flawed test indicated some people made it give a positive. yet the test cannot by design isolate the named strain (it never has been isolated), that's before you even get to the fact that even the W.H.O. admit how bad the test is, even the person who invented the test states it should never be used for what it is being used for!
Yet people here like elsewhere going into a meltdown, pointing fingers at a player/s and saying they should fined, sacked etc when there's in fact a less threat of harm to individuals and populations than a particularly good flu year.
As for you comparing black death, HIV and Ebola, proves you know absolutely jack S@@t, but you stick to pulling up ugly grammar if that's all you've got ![Laughing icon_lol.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_lol.gif)
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| Quote ="48756c6c20 524c4643"....... but you stick to pulling up ugly grammar if that's all you've got
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What makes me laugh is you thinking he was commenting on your grammar. ![Laughing icon_lol.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_lol.gif)
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| Quote ="48756c6c20 524c4643"So you're upset at some grammar, whatever, rather you're bothered by the fact that I've exposed how low the risk is to players and you don't like it. That the risk in populations is =/< influenza, and this year is significantly lower than last years good flu year tells you al you need to know regards 'risk', not just for players and their families, for clubs' backroom staff, but indeed the fans whom wish to watch their teams live.
There simply isn't any risk over and above any normal year, as I said, it's factually LESS risk, the data proves this (and proves the government is lying) and that measures are totally unnecessary. Six 'positives', whatever that actually means tells you nothing except that a flawed test indicated some people made it give a positive. yet the test cannot by design isolate the named strain (it never has been isolated), that's before you even get to the fact that even the W.H.O. admit how bad the test is, even the person who invented the test states it should never be used for what it is being used for!
Yet people here like elsewhere going into a meltdown, pointing fingers at a player/s and saying they should fined, sacked etc when there's in fact a less threat of harm to individuals and populations than a particularly good flu year.
As for you comparing black death, HIV and Ebola, proves you know absolutely jack S@@t, but you stick to pulling up ugly grammar if that's all you've got
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I true follower of Trump.
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| Quote ="Keiththered"I true follower of Trump.'"
Or, someone who has taken the time and trouble to look at the statistics, and the the facts, and made a conclusion, whether it be right or wrong.
The way I look at them, both (statistics and facts) tend to support his, her, them, they, she, he or anybody I have failed to correctly Pronoun's, opinion.
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| well my grammer is fine and she 94 years old
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| Quote ="Large Paws"Or, someone who has taken the time and trouble to look at the statistics, and the the facts, and made a conclusion, whether it be right or wrong.
The way I look at them, both (statistics and facts) tend to support his, her, them, they, she, he or anybody I have failed to correctly Pronoun's, opinion.'"
What statistics and facts? Non are quoted. That is typical Trump. You seem to belong to the same school of thought.
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| Quote ="Keiththered"What statistics and facts? Non are quoted. That is typical Trump. You seem to belong to the same school of thought.'"
Best to ignore bumpy, he may as well start a petition against Covid, he only thinks what he wants to believe, not the truth, and certainly not facts.
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| Quote ="IR80"Best to ignore bumpy, he may as well start a petition against Covid, he only thinks what he wants to believe, not the truth, and certainly not facts.'"
Exactly like Trump then!
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| Quote ="Keiththered"What statistics and facts? Non are quoted. That is typical Trump. You seem to belong to the same school of thought.'"
I didn't say any had been quoted did I?
I was referring to the statistics and facts that are readily available, to anyone with an internet connection, and which show that the virus isn't as deadly as first thought.
I'll give you one STAT for starters.
Up to the 31st July this year, there had only been 300 deaths recorded of a person under 60 years of age, from/with Covid, when no other condition/co-morbidity was present.
So the FACT is that a healthy person who catches the virus is very unlikely to die from/with it..
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| Quote ="IR80"remember MrPhil is a Rovers troll.
Whatever the circumstance, it was always going to happen, just unfortunate for us that we are the headline at the moment. I am certain nobody did anything deliberate, the season should just be cancelled if there is a level of concern.
If you took (not you personally) 30 people off the street and tested them, 50% would test positive. Herd Immunity is what will help us all, but we are not going to get rid of the virus. HIV, SARSetc. all still exist, we have learnt how to manage them. Flu is still a bigger threat than anything other than cancer, and that comes in various forms as well.
A bit like the film Dodgeball, duck, dive, dodge, don"t let it hit you, if it does, sit out a round and come back stronger.'"
I don’t think I’ve read such nonsense in a long time. And I’m the troll (would just like to confirm I am definitely not a Rovers fan as already pointed out several times).
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| Quote ="Large Paws"
I'll give you one STAT for starters.
Up to the 31st July this year, there had only been 300 deaths recorded of a person under 60 years of age, from/with Covid, when no other condition/co-morbidity was present.
So the FACT is that a healthy person who catches the virus is very unlikely to die from/with it..'"
And what might that number have been if no preventative measures had been taken (which you appear to be supporting)?
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| Quote ="Large Paws"I didn't say any had been quoted did I?
I was referring to the statistics and facts that are readily available, to anyone with an internet connection, and which show that the virus isn't as deadly as first thought.
I'll give you one STAT for starters.
Up to the 31st July this year, there had only been 300 deaths recorded of a person under 60 years of age, from/with Covid, when no other condition/co-morbidity was present.
So the FACT is that a healthy person who catches the virus is very unlikely to die from/with it..'"
Thanks for the information. Please give me the link to the source of your stat so that I can judge for myself if I believe it to be a fact.
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| Quote ="ccs"And what might that number have been if no preventative measures had been taken (which you appear to be supporting)?'"
I absolutely support the initial measures that have been taken and fully understand the reasons for them.
What I now think, based on the facts and figures, is slightly different.
Also to state that it could have been worse if we hadn't done X or Y, is open to debate, given the Swedish model of dealing with it, ie no lockdown and similar statistics.
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| Quote ="Isaiah"He might of felt fine before he visited the club physio, and perhaps started to feel unwell during his physio'"
Completely irrelevant, you’re missing the point. Whether he was fine before, or not, he shouldn’t have been anywhere near any Hull FC player or staff for two weeks. Pangai Jr was sacked for getting a haircut yet we have Swift going to about as high risk a place as you could go to and turning up for training. If Swift has turned up with symptoms then he should be sacked because that goes beyond displaying a lack of common sense and would be a breach of government guidelines.
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Quote ="Keiththered"Thanks for the information. Please give me the link to the source of your stat so that I can judge for myself if I believe it to be a fact.'"
NHS figures for hospital deaths
https://www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/w ... -file.xlsx
That link should lead you to a document which has a more updated version of the data, for deaths in hospital.
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Quote ="Keiththered"Thanks for the information. Please give me the link to the source of your stat so that I can judge for myself if I believe it to be a fact.'"
NHS figures for hospital deaths
https://www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/w ... -file.xlsx
That link should lead you to a document which has a more updated version of the data, for deaths in hospital.
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You are right, if you had been tested positive for Covid six weeks ago, and then got hit by a bus, Covid would be on the death certificate.
The whole thing, worldwide, is somewhat of a fudge. Be interesting to see comparable figures for alcoholism and smoking and road accidents.
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You are right, if you had been tested positive for Covid six weeks ago, and then got hit by a bus, Covid would be on the death certificate.
The whole thing, worldwide, is somewhat of a fudge. Be interesting to see comparable figures for alcoholism and smoking and road accidents.
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Seems only to relate to deaths in hospital.
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Seems only to relate to deaths in hospital.
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