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| Quote ="mwindass"If it is Tony Smith he's got balls like king kong'"
Pearson told a Sponsor after the Toulouse game that Smith wouldn’t be coming to the club. However who now knows what may happen after yesterday.
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| Quote ="Irregular Hoops"Keep seeing on social media from different people that it’s Hodgson out, Smith in.
Either everyone is wrong, making it up or some news is leaking out somewhere.'"
Think its 2 + 2 = 5.
Smith is available and wants to coach again. He does like a project
Didn't he fall out with Lakin though due to wanting too much control?
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| TS is no doubt a great man manager, history shows that, but something went wrong for him at Rovers, I watched the CC semi at Elland Road and I knew during the warm up we weren't at the races, that was the first sign things werent right, he's reluctant to give youngsters a chance, or that's how he came across at Rovers anyway. And his love of unstructured rugby was great, the times we won, but hair pulling other games.
If you sign him he'll no doubt improve you but it won't be overnight.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"I'm not sure how you can say we have no idea on the wealth of our owner or our outgoings yet say we are at parity with most clubs.
The point I was making is that pretty recently AP was making supportive noises about Hodgson so to pull the trigger now looks like an emotional response to a result rather than delivering a measured and strategic succession plan. Your last point is supportive I think of what I've proposed, namely that we need some transparent comms recognising these shortcomings.'"
I don't constantly bang on about the financial state of the club and portray them in a negative light as you do.
I don't know the financial details of the club but we must face the same concerns as other clubs like Cas, Wakey, Rovers and Salford to name a few, was the point I was making.
I accept BH will be here next season but if he was to be replaced yesterday wouldn't have been the deciding factor but merely more supportive evidence of the quality of coaching and playing staff.
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| Quite a few people saying he’s gone.
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| Quote ="Irregular Hoops"If true, it’s a shame because Hodgson seems a good guy.
Still think he’s more of an ideas/pathways/admin guy rather than a head coach
Whoever is next, it can’t be an Assistant. Rohan Smith at Leeds has done very well, but he was a head coach of a reserve grade team, which is a good level.
I’d go for Tony Smith. Just think he’s the type to come into a club and give it an immediate lift.'"
He certainly has the respect of players something definitely missing now at the club.
Smiths style of R/L would also be a refreshing change.
The club is in such a mess now that even for Tony Smith it would take time.
Maybe if Smith came in we should look at one or two of the more unknown coaches in the lower divisions as an assistant like Gorley at Whitehaven who is doing a good job with very limited funds.
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| Quote ="bonaire"He certainly has the respect of players something definitely missing now at the club.
Smiths style of R/L would also be a refreshing change.
The club is in such a mess now that even for Tony Smith it would take time.
Maybe if Smith came in we should look at one or two of the more unknown coaches in the lower divisions as an assistant like Gorley at Whitehaven who is doing a good job with very limited funds.'"
Lingard at Batley as well
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| Quote ="Irregular Hoops"Quite a few people saying he’s gone.'"
Fingers crossed, it'd be unusual for the club to make a decision like that on a Sunday but I suppose depends if he's walking or he's been pushed.
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| What if Fev don't go up.... would anyone take their coach
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| Quote ="Bombed Out"I don't constantly bang on about the financial state of the club and portray them in a negative light as you do.
I don't know the financial details of the club but we must face the same concerns as other clubs like Cas, Wakey, Rovers and Salford to name a few, was the point I was making.
I accept BH will be here next season but if he was to be replaced yesterday wouldn't have been the deciding factor but merely more supportive evidence of the quality of coaching and playing staff.'"
The difference with our finances is we rely on Pass and Shirt sales more than other clubs as we don't get bar takings and only get a % of the hospitality. Aside from the Derby we also don't sell many tickets by match. Wakefield are almost a complete opposite, they sell more tickets by match (their crowds go down when it rains!) but they get a decent income from the bars.
Sadly for Pearson the cost of living crisis, a surge in interest in Hull City and the fans fedup after 5 years of below par performances and big name players not coming over from the NRL anymore (the Hetheringtons used to sign us a big name to cheer us up and get the tills ringing) are all coming at once. Changing manager is one of the few cards he has to play.
The only good financial news will be apart from the shops I bet the club doesn't have a big electric bill to pay!
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"The problem with just replacing Hodgson (if that's what will happen) is that it's simply a knee jerk response to losing a derby in humiliating fashion in an effort to persuade wavering fans to renew. This is not the right circumstance to make such a decision, whether it's the right one or not.
We need a full reset IMO. Acknowledgment that the momentum of success in 16/17 has been squandered, transparency on the financial status of the club and a non-bull articulation of plans on and off the pitch over the next couple of years including lease renewal. You have to face the truth to tackle the issues, or be clear how difficult it is to do so effectively, in order to carry the club's only asset (its fans) with you. Making this about replacing the coach alone and everything else is fine and we're aiming for top 4 in 2023 would be insulting.
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Hardly a knee jerk reaction
Hodgson is way out of his depth and i for one have been calling for him to be replaced for weeks based on non performance,done nothing to address the indiscipline on the field, and my main criticism being the very poor recruitment for this season with non of his signings enhancing the team.
To let him carry on as long as he has and then start recruitment for next season is another big blunder by Pearson.
Dont care what anyone thinks but Sutcliffe is another average signing and if we needed another centre we should be aiming much higher, but once again we have another utility player coming in which seems to be Hodgsons only strategy.
Like i said many times Hodgson is too nice,too loyal to certain players when hard decisions needed to be made and now at last if the rumours are true he has been removed.
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| Quote ="mwindass"What if Fev don't go up.... would anyone take their coach'"
Undecided, he's a no nonsense character and i'd love to see some of our lazy players given a harder time but he also seems to fall out with people a lot, also didn't he have a beef with Pearson a few years back?
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| Quote ="bonaire"Hardly a knee jerk reaction
Hodgson is way out of his depth and i for one have been calling for him to be replaced for weeks based on non performance,done nothing to address the indiscipline on the field, and my main criticism being the very poor recruitment for this season with non of his signings enhancing the team.
To let him carry on as long as he has and then start recruitment for next season is another big blunder by Pearson.
Dont care what anyone thinks but Sutcliffe is another average signing and if we needed another centre we should be aiming much higher, but once again we have another utility player coming in which seems to be Hodgsons only strategy.
Like i said many times Hodgson is too nice,too loyal to certain players when hard decisions needed to be made and now at last if the rumours are true he has been removed.'"
Agree entirely. Its the lack of seeing any signs of progression that is the biggest Hodgson failing. If I understood what style he was going for and that he needed more time to get the players he needed to make it work i'd be onboard with that. I always had this year down as a transition year and we all know there are a few players here next year we can't get rid of.
The standard of SL is in my opinion the worst its ever been and it woulden't take all that much for a new coach to get a few wins and get us in 3rd-6th, the real gap is to the top2 who are miles ahead now
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| Quote ="UllFC"Undecided, he's a no nonsense character and i'd love to see some of our lazy players given a harder time but he also seems to fall out with people a lot, also didn't he have a beef with Pearson a few years back?'"
He's an odd character, but does have the ability to lift people. As you say can't see him getting on with our lazy players.
Don't remember the Pearson thing
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| Quote ="mwindass"He's an odd character, but does have the ability to lift people. As you say can't see him getting on with our lazy players.
Don't remember the Pearson thing'"
Just had a google and Pearson had a go about Toronto in 2020 and Mcdermott called him 'naive'...Toronto eh wonder what happened to them? ![Smile icon_smile.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_smile.gif)
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| Quote ="UllFC"Just had a google and Pearson had a go about Toronto in 2020 and Mcdermott called him 'naive'...Toronto eh wonder what happened to them?
'" its not like Leeds won much or developed many top players from their youth set up under him before the Toronto experiment ?
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| We've been doing our social media announcements at 6 and 7pm.
Can't see anything being announced tonight. Might be worth keeping an eye out
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| Quote ="UllFC"Fingers crossed, it'd be unusual for the club to make a decision like that on a Sunday but I suppose depends if he's walking or he's been pushed.'"
It also takes time to dig their heads out of the sand
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| I would quite happily sack
players who haven’t performed for
The past 3 years or so..Taylor was awful again yesterday and hasn’t performed to a good standard for years yet he quite happily points the finger elsewhere…He’s another who thinks he’s bigger and better than he is when in reality his performances have been mid championship standard
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| Quote ="jimmyfivebellies"I would quite happily sack
players who haven’t performed for
The past 3 years or so..Taylor was awful again yesterday and hasn’t performed to a good standard for years yet he quite happily points the finger elsewhere…He’s another who thinks he’s bigger and better than he is when in reality his performances have been mid championship standard'"
He's turned into a right pudding.
Shot out the line again yesterday and tried to put a big hit on
Yiu notice its never against another forward, always against a slight outside back.
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| Quote ="mwindass"He's turned into a right pudding.
Shot out the line again yesterday and tried to put a big hit on
Yiu notice its never against another forward, always against a slight outside back.'"
Shouted to him after the game when he was doing his usual selfies, ' where's the passion in the badge gone, his reply was Dunno... now I know after a game emotions are high and they can't say much but myself a few around where surprised at that. Just an apology for the performance would have been nice
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| taylor should have gone last season if rumours were true of him slagging hodgson off at magic v leeds? surely grounds for gross misconduct?
mind its not the first time he has openly had a go at a coach, remember a quizz night for yeamos' testimonial when he was still at KR, did nothing but slag sandercock off all night!
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| Players officially informed tomorrow of Hodgsons departure.
Gut feeling is Smith.
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| Confirmed by two people that Smith was due to be DOR but will now be head coach on a rolling 12 month contract.
Could be people getting carried away, but would make the derby interesting ![Laughing icon_lol.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_lol.gif)
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| Quote ="mwindass"Confirmed by two people that Smith was due to be DOR but will now be head coach on a rolling 12 month contract.
Could be people getting carried away, but would make the derby interesting
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Won’t get my hopes up.
Had a message earlier from a friend who is neighbours with one of the Hull born players parents.
They were at a family gathering a couple of weeks ago and said player was asked his thoughts on Hodgson and he said he’s a “complete wet wipe” with no bottle or authority in the camp.
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