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| I think we as fans should pay the £500 per year then hull fc do not have to get involved then any future increase would be a snub to us the people of hull
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| Quote ="Basil Fawlty"Always a pratt ... never mind next week - however in a them (footy) and us (RL) we stand together!!!!!!'"
Come and join us. You're just the type we need!!
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| Quote ="geronimo"I think we as fans should pay the £500 per year then hull fc do not have to get involved then any future increase would be a snub to us the people of hull'"
That's a great suggestion IMO, then HullFC don't have to comment or make no reference to the incident, the fans pay the cash and as you say...next time they want to play dirty tricks they are snubbing the people and not HullFC the corporation.
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| Quote ="Hessle Roader"Come and join us. You're just the type we need!!'"
Part of me is
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| This is a victory of sorts - well done to all who took action, especially Standee, Mrs B and Hutchie.
£500 is still wrong though. We shouldn't have to pay.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"This is a victory of sorts - well done to all who took action, especially Standee, Mrs B and Hutchie.
A £500 is still wrong though. We shouldn't have to pay.'"
No, and as I've said repeatedly, neither should City
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| Quote ="Chris28"Hutchie and Peter Levy?'"
Johnny Whiteley and Allam, you numpty. Not sure where the two you mention are on that scale.
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| Quote ="geronimo"I think we as fans should pay the £500 per year then hull fc do not have to get involved then any future increase would be a snub to us the people of hull'"
Now that is a excellent idea, even thou nothing should be paid at all we need a positive outcome. I wonder if the fans could say have the up keep of the pictures in the stadium, maybe through FC Voices or the 18th man to sponsor the effort. Could this be a possibility?. I for one would be willing to make a donation and i am sure many more supporters would also. Its our history and it should be put back up in it's rightful place. It will be intresting what Wilf and the rest of FC Voices think of this and if it could happen.
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| I'm sorry but for me it isn't the amount the SMC are seeking to charge but the principle of charging in the first place: that is wrong, simple as.
A "nominal" sum of £500 may seem like a victory but by paying it we are accepting that the principle of charging rent on picture space is valid. Once we pay, then watch this "rent" creep ever upwards. Assem Allam is like a thicker version of Michael O'Leary
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| It's an excellent outcome but have to agree with others than we still shouldn't have to pay anything, does this set a precedent?
Well done to everyone that got involved, it's comforting to know that the council went into battle for us.
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| This isn't over, there are still questions to be asked, we can't let Allam get away with saving face, the SMC need looking into, the situation with excessive costs for the Arena need addressing, the pictures issue is an important but relatively thin end of a big wedge IMHO.
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| Yes Standee and we don't know the terms of it do we we only have the Mail to go on perhaps there are clauses and caviats (would that surprise anyone) we now have to sit and wait what happens when the Club and the SMC discuss it and what exactly the deal covers. It looks good on the face of it but until its agreed we don't know do we?
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| I think this is far from an "excellent outcome".
The £500 would still not give us equality with the soccer team, which is what we are asking for.
It relates to matchdays only, so what about the other days ?
What about our trophies and memorabilia ?
Does this mean that the Johnny Whiteley suite would only have his photos if we are playing ?
Do city have to take down their photos ?
I think for £500 I would want a guranteed equal spilt of display space on a PERMANENT basis. I have no problem seeing city stuff on the wall (except pictures of little fat arabs ), as long as we have equal shares.
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| Quote ="TrevLovesJanice"I think this is far from an "excellent outcome".
The £500 would still not give us equality with the soccer team, which is what we are asking for.
It relates to matchdays only, so what about the other days ?
What about our trophies and memorabilia ?
Does this mean that the Johnny Whiteley suite would only have his photos if we are playing ?
Do city have to take down their photos ?
I think for £500 I would want a guranteed equal spilt of display space on a PERMANENT basis. I have no problem seeing city stuff on the wall (except pictures of little fat arabs
), as long as we have equal shares.'"
If that is right it wil cost em £25,000 of their own money taking em down and putting em up replacing them with City ones etc etc I think they'll soon get tired of that dont think that its practical myself.
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| Quote ="TrevLovesJanice"It relates to matchdays only, so what about the other days ?'"
Is that right - so someone has to go round putting up and taking down pictures?
Are the SMC for real? What a complete joke.
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| I've not read through all 70 pages, but now we have a figure of £500 I think it would be an excellent idea if we, the 18th man, paid the £500. I suspect we would have to gain permission for a bucket collection, but I would love to be the person that hands £500 in cash over to the SMC (bagged in the correct quantities of course ).
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| £500 is £500 too much IMO. It reminds me of when I went on a Nile cruise in the 90's - spent the whole week haggling for just about anything and everything. FC and City should have an equal share of memorabilia on display and an equal presence in terms of graphics etc. in all public areas. Any costs to 'maintain' this should already be covered in the tenants' rent. If as the HDM suggests the SMC is 'costing the Allams money' then why don't they look to sell it to a neutral party with the help of the Council ? (I already know the answer to that by the way).
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| Quote ="Chris28"Is that right - so someone has to go round putting up and taking down pictures?
Are the SMC for real? What a complete joke.'"
I dont trust em at all Perhaps they expect us to do it who know we have to wait and see what the deal is it may not be over yet!
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| Anyone know how much it costs to put up a picture when you provide the picture and the fittings to have it on the wall are already in situ?
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| Don't get too excited folks
There was a story about this on the Wail's website earlier, that story has now gone AWOL
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| I can't get a copy of the paper, and it doesn't seem the article appears online.....?
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| While the £500 seems like a victory, as others have mentioned it sets a dangerous precedent. Once we have accepted the principle of a charge for displaying pictures/memorabilia then there is nothing to stop that charge being increased - or indeed other similar charges being levied.
Hopefully the club and the council are aware of this and will act accordingly.
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| Where has this £500 figure come from? How have they gotten to that value? What does it entail? (Is it just match days? Equal wall space? Number if photos, etc?)
I'd be very wary. To me it feels like they just want us to accept that the terms of the contract have changed by accepting a low figure. They can then charge us what the hell they like after a while.
Personally, I'd tell them to ram it. It shouldn't cost anything. We shouldn't leave ourselves open on this one.
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"Personally, I'd tell them to ram it. It shouldn't cost anything. We shouldn't leave ourselves open on this one.'"
Agree 100%, and I honestly believe the club will say the same.
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| Quote ="Kosh"While the £500 seems like a victory, as others have mentioned it sets a dangerous precedent. Once we have accepted the principle of a charge for displaying pictures/memorabilia then there is nothing to stop that charge being increased - or indeed other similar charges being levied.
Hopefully the club and the council are aware of this and will act accordingly.'"
BOOM!!!!
We have a winner. Once a single penny changes hands it changes the legal position. On the twitter feed, Allam has posted its the principal that matters. Yet he fails to see it is him that has changed the original position. At the end of the day, he is not daft and he will want to engineer a situation where by he wins in the long run.
Time will tell
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