Maybe he wants to compete for trophies? More chance with Saints in next 2 years.

And yet he's been happy enough to take our money over the last few years with no trophies in sight.

Whatever the reason I'm disappointed in him. Like others I thought the club might mean more to him than that, especially with the all the changes happening right now. I hope he comes to regret it.

wasn`t Manu at St George in Aus when Nathan Brown was there as a player, wonder if they maybe good mates from those days

Not spoke to Bomber direct but thats what it said in the mail.

'The Mail understands', no quote from McRae i can find.

[iHULL FC's 'take-it or leave it' contract offer to Willie Manu is for another three-years at the club, the Mail has learned.
The second-rower was initially offered a two-year contract six weeks ago.
However, the Mail has now learned that following talks with his agent, an improved offer of three years was put forward to meet Manu's requests.
As reported in yesterday's Mail, Hull have stressed that is their 'best and final' offer.[/i

I would of thought the club has shown enough ambition to suggest thats what we're about under AP but if he doesn't want to be part of it then once again F**K HIM.

Really? I don't think he does.

It's money, simple as that.

I totally agree. Money talks. Not trophies.

Fair enough. TBH that statement is ambiguous enough to cover at least a couple of possibilities.

I'm under the impression it's a done deal but not all about money as is being given on here as a reason by some. I believe he's offered less at Saints but there are other reasons behind him wanting to go there.

I'd be more disappointed if we lost O'Meley than Manu.
We have good depth in the backrow, also at the moment, there is a lack of good props available.
Prop wise, we have Lynch,Pitts,O'Carroll,Bowden contracted, if Moa resigned,would fans be happy with that quintet?

With the Manu issue, McRae indicated the contract offered befitted a marquee player, for mine we have more pressing
issues to offer another marquee contract to another backrower.

My opinion ,is that we need to attract a good 6, the guy i like is Sa, from Catalans, 24 yrs old,and OOC.,
and Finch at Wigan,Chase would be sensational, obviously AP would have to pay a massive transfer fee.

I'd be surprised, if McKinnon is here for next season, maybe if no one is available, Horne to FB??

IF Manu has gone, the good thing, is that PG has more flexibility, to get the players he wants.

Yeah, uprooting his family at the age of 32 to leave a place he's openly admitted his family are settled in is obviously for less money.

I reckon that manu would have gone anyway, af it sounds like hull have pulled out all the stops to keep him. Good job we signed Ellis. Imagine the reaction in here if we had lost manu and hadn't signed Ellis.

Your probably right and playing for a genuine top 4 club who has serious ambitions of winning silverware is likely to be a few of them.

Bringing in Ellis was a massive coup but losing the best backrow forward currently in SL and a player who has shone for you since coming from Cas is not a step forward.

If you honestly believe that he'd uproot his family and move to the other side of the country for less cash then I have a bridge you might be interested in purchasing.

Laugh all you want, i've nothing to gain by telling you, makes no odds to me what money he's on to be honest. I just thought i'd share the information with you.

Best back rower in SL? Think Hock, Westwood and possibly a few others would disagree. But facts are obviously not your priority.

See my last post, makes no odds to me what you choose to believe really.

We have ambition but are nowhere near winning trophies yet. If Manu knows Brown and has the chance of two years with Saints it's easy to see why.

Either way I'd he wants to leave so be it. Club offered good deal.

You had 4 out of 6 forwards in the team of the season so far(OPTA stats) and Tickle was the other S/R, so I would say yes.

My troll alert sensor had gone crazy. I am confident that we win as much if not more than saints while manu id there, there squad is looking very unbalenced imo.

Browns leaving one bunch of bottlers for another.

Bookmark it now, we'll win silverware before Saints do again.

You think Manu is better than Hock or Westwood?

He is also good friends with Puletua too, helps make a big career decision easier when you strong friendships elsewhere.