We can expect it, and indeed hope that it happens. Unfortunately I think you over estimate the ability and education levels of many people at the poorer end of our society. You, I and most on here can see through the propaganda that you mention. That is not the case for everyone. It's the same reason that people brawl in the streets on a saturday night or all over war memorials. That is a lack of personal responsibility as well and an inability to understand right and wrong. If your life is spent mostly in the gutter and you cant see a way out then you are an easy target for extremists be they BNP or anyone else. The number of people like this in society is rising and that is a direct result of this and previous Government's policies on welfare, education, immigration and law and order. If you carry on being liberal long enough this is what you end up with. Unfortunately.

I agree with you totally that's what I have said. However the situation is worse now than ever thanks to the shockng state of main stream politics today. That is a failure of the the mainstream parties and not some improvement in the performance of the extremists.

Sadly your statement is very true. Social values are dividing within society and extremists are able to peddle their filth fairly freely knowing exactly who to target.

I didnt say they got more, i said they shouldnt be getting anything. Let them sit in their own country and claim off the state. I also said in the same statement that i would reduce the benefits of the UK layabouts to encourage them to take work too and not be better off by not wanting to work, did you miss that bit?

I never realised FC fans were Xenephobes, another tick in the "top ten city" questionnaire



I wonder sometimes if a lot of posters on here have ever lived and worked beyond a HU postal code. (actually, I wonder if a fair few have ever lived, or worked).

Have you ever lived in an HU postcode? If not I don't really see how you can comment on our opinions.

I fail to see what living within or outside of a HU postcode has to do with people having an opinion on the state of the country, want to elaborate?

Yes, thanks, I've lived HU3, HU1, HU14, so I can comment.

Our opinions reflect the city we live in, it affects us in Hull more than it affects people from more "affluent" areas.

How long ago did you move and lose touch then?

I've not lost touch of the xenephobic racists that drag their collective knuckles around the streets of Hull, who conveniently forget the role migrants and immigrants paid in building the city in the first place.

You think Hull has problems, try Leicester, Nottingham, Birmingham, London Boroughs, believe me, Hull is way down the list of areas that have been "dumped on".

Hull suffers because of the insular attitude of SOME of it's inhabitants, amazing how you don't like migrant workers, unless of course they are Aussies who can pass or kick a ball.

???? Think I may have misread your earlier comments as I agree.
The answer to most of these problems is education, sadly we are not very competent at it in certain parts of the country.
My father is originally from Birmingham and has told me how Hull haven't got that bad a problem.

We've obviously crossed wires at some point, apologies.

A lot of people (notably the idiot that is "littlejohn"icon_wink.gif seem to conveniently forget the role migrant workers have paid in the UK, look back to colonisation ad we were amongst the worst opressors in the world, we massacred "heathens" in the name of enlightenment, we raped and pillaged the resources of the world, and yet some still feel there is some kind of superiority for being white caucasian, when in fact it's embarassing to be related to mass murderers, colonists and zealouts.

People from Hull do well to remember our prosperity was built on theft from foreign nationals, pillaging their international waters, and a general disregard for fellow man.

However good that speech was, it's totally wasted on here!









A referendum would still of been nice though!

Oh I know that, people are too vexed about swarthy looking foreigns, with rucksacks!

But my point is that by living in Hull it doesnt mean we immediately know nothing about other areas to form an opinion.

If you're embarrassed to be white, do a reverse Michael jackson then feck off to Africa or the Middle East, then you might just have something to complain about

Im not embarassed of my skin colour, but I dont wear it as a pathetic badge that gives me the right to be a racist.

My species is Human, no other demarkation is necessary.

You're just a fecking idiot!

yeah yeah, all civilisations throughout history have conquered raped and pillaged there way to expansion, regardless of their skin colour. What gets my goat is people like Standee carrying on as if it's the 'white' people are the only ones to have done it.

Predmoninantly, it is.

You do remember the "crusades", do you not?

I dont think you'll find mass opression by Mulsims, they simply defended their birth rights.

Xerxes.

He avenged his father, no religious bent on his actions.

you'll be defending the IRA next!



We and the Americans are still at it to an extent, trying to push our western beliefs on middle eastern societies. I just get the feeling that if we left them alone they would us.

Maybe, maybe not. But isnt one of the main reasons we are there in the first place to help their local people that have been mass murdered for no reason? So they may leave us along but then kill their own?

Whatever is said its all driven by oil anyway.