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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"If someone comes in for him we won't need to pay him off (as per Mark O'Meley).'"
I can not see another club offering him a contract, well not a SL one anyway and he would need to agree to move
Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"The youngsters in the squad will learn far more from the likes of Cusack, Fitzgibbon and O'Meley than Paul King. '"
The chances of any of them playing with the u21 side is minimal, hence my concern at the level of senior player involvement with the youth set up. I get to most U21 matches and very few of the senior squad even attend and the senior coaching team are invisible. I was just thinking that if it looks like Kingys SL opportunities where going to be limited next year, then we could use his services with the reserves.
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| Quote ="Standee"We tried to give him away the last off season, nobody is interested.'"
I'd be surprised at that, given that he signed a contract extension on 24th July last season.
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| Quote ="Ian P"His pay only counts 50% on the cap due to him being here over ten years as will Richie Hornes
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Only up to a maximum of £50K split between the pair of them. We will in all likelihood get the full benefit of that from Horne alone, so we are in effect paying full whack for King.
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| Garbage!!!!!!!!!
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| Quote ="Kosh"Only up to a maximum of £50K split between the pair of them. We will in all likelihood get the full benefit of that from Horne alone, so we are in effect paying full whack for King.'"
And whilst we have cap space spare this year we have the opportunity to use it and pay off his final year. the only other option is that he sits in our 21s all season and blocks a young kid staking a place for his development. Dont think king will play more than 5 first team games next season if he stays.
Great service to FC, is there room for this sentiment in professional sport, not for me.
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| Quote ="Ian P"His pay only counts 50% on the cap due to him being here over ten years as will Richie Hornes
I have stated in other places that the U21s do need senior players like Kingy and his input at that level would bring untold pay back. He can also step upto SL when and if we needed him, oh for an extra Kingy in the 21s now
Kingy has been at the club a long time and unlike others did not seek his fortune elsewhere. He has been a light at times, a lone warrior carrying the whole of us on his back.
Now get of his...................'"
Having Paul King as a roll model would be like putting Frank Gallagher up for Father of the year.
King was on the verge of signing for Leeds until they backed out due to his off field "refuelling" habits
Another example of a blinkered attitude.
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| Quote ="Hannibal Heyes"Garbage!!!!!!!!!'"
Harsh.
Apart from the fact that he has had two stints this year with injuries, when he has played he has walked into an unsettled team. All the other props apart from the inexperienced Moa and Maloney have been injured at some time this year (even Carvell used to spend more time than most on the treatement table). That means that none of the props (apart from the opening of the season when we did very well) have been consistently playing their own game. For example, in the Leeds game both King and Moa were expected to play much longer stints than they would usually have done as pure impact props. In that context I think King did pretty well.
I think there is a lot of slagging of our props on this and other threads. Maybe they're not all world beaters individually but when fit and playing in a fit team they are capable of competing with the best. Let's not also forget that he has a European passport. At the end of the day, we reached three competition finals over the last few years with these and similar "average" players across the park. If we offload him, which I think is possible (even with his contract situation), he will have several clubs in the SL ready to take him on as Wigan were in the not too distant past.
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"Having Paul King as a roll model would be like putting Frank Gallagher up for Father of the year.
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I would have thought Moa was the best "roll" model at the club
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| watched the tape lat night he must haver done 50 tackles
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| This guy has been poor for the last 5 years at least not the last 2.
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| Quote ="Hannibal Heyes"This guy has been poor for the last 5 years at least not the last 2.'"
I don't agree. Before his foot injury last year he was probably our best prop imo.
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| Quote ="offical rumour monger"watched the tape lat night he must haver done 50 tackles'"
Get off the clue!
He was only on the pitch for about 50 minutes.
According to the stats of the game in League express he made somewhere in the region of 30 tackles and was also join top of the missed tackles stat.
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"icon_lol.gif
Get off the clue!
He was only on the pitch for about 50 minutes.
According to the stats of the game in League express he made somewhere in the region of 30 tackles and was also join top of the missed tackles stat.
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Whenever anyone mentions stats supporting players, they're pointless and when they're offered in evidence against, they're meaningful.
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| Quote ="offical rumour monger"watched the tape lat night he must haver done 50 tackles'"
You don't want to let "seeing" get in the way.
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| How many were effective and how many BIG hits does he miss? Also, how often does he break a tackle?
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| the standard of rugby in super league has moved upwards and onwards,but i'm afraid kingy has stood still and hasn't moved on.players nowadays,are too quick for him,and seem to just sidestep him most of the time,enabling them to miss the ''big'' hits.surely it will be last orders for him come the end of the season!just because he's a local lad doesn't automatically mean he should be here.it would be fantastic to have a team full of local talent,but it's no good if we are stuck at the bottom year in year out.we need to move on.
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| This thread has gone from praising Kingy at the start to the usual Kingy bashing this forum is famous for!
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| Quote ="gazcoops"This thread has gone from praising Kingy at the start to the usual Kingy bashing this forum is famous for!
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No, Kingy is famous for letting us down, badly, and getting due criticism.
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| Quote ="Standee"No, Kingy is famous for letting us down, badly, and getting due criticism.'"
so why is he getting the same sort of criticism when he's had a good game?
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| Quote ="gazcoops"so why is he getting the same sort of criticism when he's had a good game?'"
one swallow does not a summer make
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| Quote ="Standee"one swallow does not a summer make'"
it certainly doesn't but if you compare this thread to the Sam Moa thread, where people are calling for him to be given a new contract based one having a good game, you all sound silly.
If this is the response Kingy gets for having a good game, i'd hate to see what the response is when he has a stinker.
The way i've see thing, Kingy has been given his first decent amount of game time since he's come back from a half a season out the game and gets slated for having a good game, cant the people of this forum say well done for once?
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| Quote ="gazcoops"it certainly doesn't but if you compare this thread to the Sam Moa thread, where people are calling for him to be given a new contract based one having a good game, you all sound silly.
If this is the response Kingy gets for having a good game, i'd hate to see what the response is when he has a stinker.
The way i've see thing, Kingy has been given his first decent amount of game time since he's come back from a half a season out the game and gets slated for having a good game, cant the people of this forum say well done for once?'"
The difference is Moa isn't out and about pi55ed up the majority of his time.
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| Quote ="Standee"The difference is Moa isn't out and about pi55ed up the majority of his time.'"
A bit harsh
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| Quote ="gazcoops"it certainly doesn't but if you compare this thread to the Sam Moa thread, where people are calling for him to be given a new contract based one having a good game, you all sound silly.
If this is the response Kingy gets for having a good game, i'd hate to see what the response is when he has a stinker.
The way i've see thing, Kingy has been given his first decent amount of game time since he's come back from a half a season out the game and gets slated for having a good game, cant the people of this forum say well done for once?'"
Thats the whole point!!
He didn't have a good game. He had a half decent 10 minutes when the game was done and dusted.
Before and after that 10 minutes spell in the second half he yet again came charging out of the line to attempt a big hit only to miss his man. He also laboured into the tackle either side of that 10 minute spell.
The performance in that 10 minute spell should be the standard for the entire time he is on the pitch.
The blinkeredness of some is almost tangible at times.
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