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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"How is he off quaota?'"
Spanish passport i think?????
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Doesn't mean he is off quota.
He would be classed as Non Federation Trained player (kolpak).
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Doesn't mean he is off quota.
He would be classed as Non Federation Trained player (kolpak).
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| Quote ="FC Callum"Doesn't mean he is off quota.
He would be classed as Non Federation Trained player (kolpak).'"
Yeh I think thats correct!
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| I believe under European Law he can work in this Country and will not count on the Quota could be wrong
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| Quote ="kt170496"I believe under European Law he can work in this Country and will not count on the Quota
could be wrong
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You are wrong. He is non fed trained
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Non fed'"
Have we brought in any quota/non fed players since Crocker didnt get his visa?
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| Quote ="GJJ 79"Have we brought in any quota/non fed players since Crocker didnt get his visa?'"
No problem this season, it's next where the issue may be
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"No problem this season, it's next where the issue may be'"
and knowing this clubs luck he will be the best prop to ever grace SL, then we'll have to let him go to suit the rules
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| =redIf people want to discuss that joke of a club then please do it on their board.
Ta.
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| Quote ="FC Callum"Doesn't mean he is off quota.
He would be classed as Non Federation Trained player (kolpak).'"
Same thing in essence though, isn't it?
The quota is overseas players with non-EU passports etc, so having an EU passport makes him a Non Federation Trained player (kolpak) which therefore IS an off-quota player.
I think the problem seems to be recognising the difference between quota players and overseas players, and clubs' allowances for them.
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| [url=http://www.sporthull.co.uk/rugby_league/hull_fc/news/displayarticle.php?ID=13253Reads here like we have pretty much no interest in retaining him, anyway.[/url
Should we be looking to keep our options open, or have we maybe not got overseas space anyway?
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"[url=http://www.sporthull.co.uk/rugby_league/hull_fc/news/displayarticle.php?ID=13253Reads here like we have pretty much no interest in retaining him, anyway.[/url
Should we be looking to keep our options open, or have we maybe not got overseas space anyway?'"
We haven't.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"Same thing in essence though, isn't it?
The quota is overseas players with non-EU passports etc, so having an EU passport makes him a Non Federation Trained player (kolpak) which therefore IS an off-quota player.
I think the problem seems to be recognising the difference between quota players and overseas players, and clubs' allowances for them.'"
Suppose it depends on what you're looking at. By quota I would just mean any players who fall into either category where we have restricted numbers. We can only have 6 in total next year so unless Manu can apply to be exempt during this contract then we can't bring anyone else in
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"[url=http://www.sporthull.co.uk/rugby_league/hull_fc/news/displayarticle.php?ID=13253Reads here like we have pretty much no interest in retaining him, anyway.[/url
Should we be looking to keep our options open, or have we maybe not got overseas space anyway?'"
As far as I have read (this may have changed as it is the RFL), but next season we can have 6 non fed trained players, which is.
Cusack
Berrigan
O Meley
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Hame
So that would mean that we have no quota places left for him or Moa.
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| Quote ="Smiggs"We haven't.'"
Not seen anything to confirm this anywhere. It swings on Manu.
If Cordoba impresses, we could pay the price for being so keen to retain Cusack IMO.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Suppose it depends on what you're looking at. By quota I would just mean any players who fall into either category where we have restricted numbers. We can only have 6 in total next year so unless Manu can apply to be exempt during this contract then we can't bring anyone else in'"
Correct. Also, from 2011 the total number of overseas players will be just 5 - which is the same as the maximum non-EU allowance. So from the end of next season there will no longer be a distinction between 'quota' and 'non-Fed'. In fact the RFL Operational Rules already reflect this change.
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| Quote ="Dave K."As far as I have read (this may have changed as it is the RFL), but next season we can have 6 non fed trained players, which is.
Cusack
Berrigan
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Manu
Fitzgibbon
Hame
So that would mean that we have no quota places left for him or Moa.'"
As my previous post, it seems to depend on whether Manu can apply for exemption. If not, I'm a little bit disappointed we couldn't maybe use a spot on a back.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"As my previous post, it seems to depend on whether Manu can apply for exemption. If not, I'm a little bit disappointed we couldn't maybe use a spot on a back.'"
I looked at the rules again last night and Manu can't come off the quota until his contract ends. So he will count as an overseas player next season and our allocation is full.
No more overseas signings unless someone leaves.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Suppose it depends on what you're looking at. By quota I would just mean any players who fall into either category where we have restricted numbers. We can only have 6 in total next year so unless Manu can apply to be exempt during this contract then we can't bring anyone else in'"
I know, I just got the impression the first poster was using off-quota in the stricter term of not one of the 5, whereas the reply seemed to be counting non-fed as still quota.
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| Quote ="Kosh"I looked at the rules again last night and Manu can't come off the quota until his contract ends. So he will count as an overseas player next season and our allocation is full.
No more overseas signings unless someone leaves.'"
Thought it was you who'd got my hopes up, but couldn't remember for sure.
Does the contract have to be due to expire, or is just when a player signs a new deal? Don't suppose it can be circumvented by simply negotiating him a new contract from next year? Hoping for too much? EDIT: Forget it, just read your post on the other thread.
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| Quote ="Dave K."As far as I have read (this may have changed as it is the RFL), but next season we can have 6 non fed trained players, which is.
Cusack
Berrigan
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Fitzgibbon
Hame
So that would mean that we have no quota places left for him or Moa.'"
I thought Hame was non quota now?
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| Quote ="PAUL M"I thought Hame was non quota now?'"
Makes no difference now. We only have 6 overseas slots (quota and kolpak combined) and they're all used. From 2011 the total number of O/S players drops to 5, which is the same as the quota anyway.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"I thought Hame was non quota now?'"
Your only allowed 6 overseas players regardless Paul, so it won`t make any difference one way or the other.
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