I know. I'm like Carol Vorderman, plus 3 stone and minus the freakish botox.

Dont really need to try harder tbh, what I have seen of him he aint been nothing special, still living off his reputation he deservedly earned from his time in the NRL.

I guess not then !!!

If im barking up the wrong tree here please accept my apologies but if your suggesting Berro is on that kind of money every year, you are very much mistaken !!

Oh sorry pal, well I thought Dave K did a good enough job for me and it didn't need any more input from me.

And hence the wink lol

Im just interested in what these other departments are that Hall is superior in thats all. Unless the odd break that Dave K mentions is the only department you meant ?

Yes you do. Your claim he played more than 95% of games at FC at hooker is clearly bollox, and he was player of the year in 2008. Pick on someone else. Like David Mills, who's played 4 SL games from a possible 33 since he signed a new 2 year deal at Rovers.

I am not interested in the point of this argument but to say we should not give a wing spot to a young inexperienced player without a single SL game is' plain silly' by you - Every-one has to start some-where some start quicker than others - Just one example Clive Sullivan - 3 tries on Debut - never looked back. The difference being Clive was a winger - nothing else. Welcome aboard Denis Tuffour. Far be it for me to live in the past but I am sure lots of other people can come up with examples

Take £100k a year off and you may be very close

Sully wasn't a regular for three years or so after his debut, though, for various reasons.

totally and absolutely barking!!!

Shows just what you don't know really! Berro's is on just over half of that! Oh and I have had a quick look through my Diary and he has as far as I can see started 8 games away from the hooking position since he arrived. So either talk sense or forget it!

I appreciate what you say but he was only ever a winger as is Calderwood - some of the young lads we have - Briscoe - Hall - etc will move to other places (Hall already so) Although I dont know a lot about Reece Lynn and Denis it would seem at the moment they would be wingers- I may be proved wrong of course.
Some daft coach once played R Horne on the wing for GB - strange thing is it did not help his course at all.

I can't see it being as low as that TBH. [url=http://www.slstats.org/p1678/Shaun+Berrigan+.htmlHere[/url has it as 18 in the league alone, which I can well believe.

I've always been of the opinion that he is quality player who has not been afforded the opportunity to show his worth in his time here. When we have played well and laid the platform he needs, he's usually been at the thick of things.

On the 'number of games Berrigan's had at hooker' issue, of his 49 SL games for us, he's [url=http://www.rugbyleagueproject.org/matches/Custom/NDEtLTktLS0tLS0xMDktLS0tLS0tLS0=apparently[/url started 27 at hooker. 55%. So not quite the 95% that was claimed.

I'm not saying we should play them anywhere other than wing, silly girl. I'm stating that you cannot give the first choice wing spot next year to a player who hasn't made his first team debut yet. They need time to develop into the position and into first team rugby.

I wasn't even looking for a bite but some couldn't help themselves lol

Bu your totally Misinformed and have no idea whatsoever, whats all this 95% rubbish, do you just make it up! and now you try to cover your tracks, I repeat



For the rest of the readers who are not escapee's from the care in the community scheme, the reason that Sully did not play many games in his first three years with us was that although he signed in Dec 1961, until 1964 he was in the Royal Signals and only played when he got off duty. He scored a hat trick on his debut and scored 26 tries is 32 appearances in those first three years. He was always first choice when he was home! In his career he suffered a lot of injuries though one if I remember was a rather dramatic one following a car accident!

Right, have you read that when I said 95%of games at hooker, I may have been wrong. But fore serious stato's like yourself, when you tell me he has played 8 games away from that position, well thats good for me. Still played well over the majority of his games in his favoured position and performed average.

Im trying to cover tracks about the £260k I mentioned about Berrigans wages lol are you another one who didn't see the wink at the end of the message? plus if he is on what you say, its far to much for the performances he has dished out for you.

Rupert - just to set the record straight (from the HDM site)

"Injury problems to Hull's squad meant just 12 starts at his favoured hooker position for Berrigan in his first season with the Black and Whites in 2008.

And there was one less start with just 11 games as a starting hooker last year as Hull's injury woes continued."

Appearances 23 in 2008 and 21 in 2009. I won't insult you by doing the maths.

You sound like my kind of lady Mrs B.

Meanwhile, back on the original thread . . . .

Regardless of who is up and coming, in my opinion, Calderwood is deserving of at least another twelve months. I would be interested to know what kind of money he's on but I don't expect him to be a massive earner. With better service and decent opportunities, I hope he proves to be good value for money after scoring 30 tries this season . . . . . (he hopes !!).

love your username

why anyone would want to get rid of our most enthusiastic,current England international is way way beyond me!!!
I know lets replace him with a 17 year old just because he is lightening fast ......

NOPE

On the other hand, you can keep a player who has been heading in the wrong direction for a number of years or replace him with a good young lad who has bags of potential with his best years in front of him. Wasn't one of the aims of taking away P&R to be able to bring through quality young kids?