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HDM generalises Fans as 3 responses again!!
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HDM generalises Fans as 3 responses again!!
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| Quote ="The Hollywood Frasier"I really dont like the look of that starting backrow as Fitz and Radford are far too similar as they are both basically props playing at 13 for Roosters and us. Would much rather see Burnett or Manu starting.
I know you are a big fan of Radford but i really hope there isnt a place for him in our 17 next season.'"
I think they are exactly what we need tbf. A strong platform for our backs to do the damage. With O'Meley, Lauaki and Manu i think we have a enough grunt and Washy would bring extra creativity. Fitz and Radders can punch holes if they get good enough service as has been proven.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"I think they are exactly what we need tbf. A strong platform for our backs to do the damage. With O'Meley, Lauaki and Manu i think we have a enough grunt and Washy would bring extra creativity. Fitz and Radders can punch holes if they get good enough service as has been proven.'" I have never heard Radford described as somebody who can 'punch holes'.
The fact of the matter is our current back 3 dont have the energy in Manu and Tickles case or athleticism in Radfords, to run any option lines to open up space on the flank for our backs.
The only forward we have who runs great lines and works off the ball is Mike Burnett.
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| Quote ="The Hollywood Frasier"I have never heard Radford described as somebody who can 'punch holes'.
The fact of the matter is our current back 3 dont have the energy in Manu and Tickles case or athleticism in Radfords, to run any option lines to open up space on the flank for our backs.
The only forward we have who runs great lines and works off the ball is Mike Burnett.'"
I have seen Radford on several occasions ghost through gaps by running a good line to score a try, if he gets the right half back to give him the ball. If he is used as a 2nd row he can, if he is used down the middle as a prop he wont.
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| Quote ="The Hollywood Frasier"I have never heard Radford described as somebody who can 'punch holes'.'"
Depends if 'holes' is code for certain rival players.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"I have seen Radford on several occasions ghost through gaps by running a good line to jump the queue to the bar.'"
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| Quote ="Standee"for accuracy
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"I have seen Radford on several occasions ghost through gaps'"
No. No, you haven't.
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| Quote ="Kosh"icon_eek.gif
No. No, you haven't.'"
Yes, yes i have!! I cant give specifics but i can recall a handful of clean breaks and can also remember a couple of tries that he has scored by receiving a decent ball. Im not going to dig up stats as i know people dont believe them but im recalling from memory which i know to be correct. Maybe you werent at the games im meaning!
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Yes, yes i have!! I cant give specifics but i can recall a handful of clean breaks and can also remember a couple of tries that he has scored by receiving a decent ball. Im not going to dig up stats as i know people dont believe them but im recalling from memory which i know to be correct. Maybe you werent at the games im meaning!
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Are you going back to Radders Mysons under 16s days in order to suit your argument Dave?
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"I have seen Radford on several occasions ghost through gaps by running a good line to score a try, if he gets the right half back to give him the ball.'" This just gets funnier and funnier we have had:
Radford punches holes
Radford ghosts through gaps
Radford runs good lines
I dread to think what you are going to say next.
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| Quote ="R.B.A"Are you going back to Radders Mysons under 16s days in order to suit your argument Dave?'"
He ran through holes then, straight over the top of me!!
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Before you mock any further based on your obvious dislike of radders i think you should review the last few seasons reviews, you may just surprise yourself!!'"
Why would anyone want a season review of the last few seasons!
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| Quote ="pmarrow"Why would anyone want a season review of the last few seasons!'"
Oh yeah Rovers fans.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Before you mock any further based on your obvious dislike of radders'" The thing i dislike is your constant preaching of the virtues of Radford and how great he is.
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| Quote ="The Hollywood Frasier"The thing i dislike is your constant preaching of the virtues of Radford and how great he is.'"
Hardly constant preaching. I just see the value as a grafter he brings to the side, and i see the value as a 2nd row he has brought to our side and Bradford previously. He is regarded by his peers as one of the better professionals they have played with. I just dont see why based on people not rating him as a captain and him being used as a 3rd prop by Agar why people continue to give the guy a hard time. If every player played for FC like Radders has this season from an effort point of view we would be nowhere near the low place that we are in the league thats for sure.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Hardly constant preaching. I just see the value as a grafter he brings to the side, and i see the value as a 2nd row he has brought to our side and Bradford previously. He is regarded by his peers as one of the better professionals they have played with. I just dont see why based on people not rating him as a captain and him being used as a 3rd prop by Agar why people continue to give the guy a hard time. If every player played for FC like Radders has this season from an effort point of view we would be nowhere near the low place that we are in the league thats for sure.'"
And he gets away some cracking off loads, a player with a suprising amount of skill in this area of the game
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"And he gets away some cracking off loads, a player with a suprising amount of skill in this area of the game'"
The radders bashers wont see that though!
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"I just see the value as a grafter he brings to the side'"
As I and THF have said before, he just doesn't bring any value. You haven't mentioned 'the little things' yet on this thread, but that is the usual catch-all phrase used to justify Radford's selection and I'm guessing those 'little things' are what you are referring to with the above comment. The problem with Radford is that it is these 'little things' that he doesn't do well and that's why he's nowhere near as good as, for example, Cusack.
Quote ="Big Dave T"The radders bashers wont see that though!'"
Because they usually aren't very good. Again, I've been through this before and picked out specific examples, but the quality of his offloads is generally poor. They are usually either thrown before he's engaged the defenders properly, negating a large part of the benefit of an offload, or they're thrown blindly, again not a good technique.
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| Quote ="trys'r'us"As I and THF have said before, he just doesn't bring any value. You haven't mentioned 'the little things' yet on this thread, but that is the usual catch-all phrase used to justify Radford's selection and I'm guessing those 'little things' are what you are referring to with the above comment. The problem with Radford is that it is these 'little things' that he doesn't do well and that's why he's nowhere near as good as, for example, Cusack.
Because they usually aren't very good. Again, I've been through this before and picked out specific examples, but the quality of his offloads is generally poor. They are usually either thrown before he's engaged the defenders properly, negating a large part of the benefit of an offload, or they're thrown blindly, again not a good technique.'"
FFS your'e like one of those cave trolls in LOTR as soon as anybody mentions Radford in any kind of regard to what he does, out come THF and his sock TrU.
you don't like him, where others do, ...........tough live with it.
As a prop he's effective enough in 'What he does best' he bottles up the middle in defence, is tight around the ruck in defence a makes hard yards.
It's not the fault of others that you cannot see what others do.
You're so negative it's funny.
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| Quote ="me 'n' our kid"FFS your'e like one of those cave trolls in LOTR as soon as anybody mentions Radford in any kind of regard to what he does, out come THF and his sock TrU.
you don't like him, where others do, ...........tough live with it.
As a prop he's effective enough in 'What he does best' he bottles up the middle in defence, is tight around the ruck in defence a makes hard yards.
It's not the fault of others that you cannot see what others do.
You're so negative it's funny.'"
Indeed. opinions are great arent they, some people just respect others a little bit more than other people do.
Did make me chuckle with THF saying about me preaching his virtues. I simply talk about the positives i see and he talks about the negative he sees. Condascending from him as usual.
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