When do people quite get that there isn't an unlimited amount of top-class talent out there, kicking the KC doors down, begging for us to let them in?

Why should I be impressed ?

OK, give us a list of who would impress you. Mind you, they'd also need to be available and affordable, so shouldn't be too long

So are you talking now about his personal qualities? Half seven was his rugby ability, but you think he's a nice guy?

Maybe read the Wigan board and see what fans who have sen him play and know him say about him.

If he can have more luck with injuries he will be a good signing, looked a very good player a couple of years ago.

indeed, he "cannot even break into the Wigan team", you know, the Wigan team that bossed the CC Final in the end, the Wigan team that are still in the battle to finish top of the pile, the Wigan team that are still many people's favourite's for the Grand Final, THAT Wigan team?

Sounds like a fella called Sean Long they had playing for them. Not sure what happened to him.

No one has said you have to be - I was pointing out, in response to your comment, that you'd been negative about the signing.

Fine, you aren't impressed by this signing. We get it

Good signing ,young british prop highly rated ,im sure his injuries are behind him ,and who else is there we couldnt find a replacement for dowes last year ,wel done fc

That's the one...the one who have forwards out of contract, leaving and near the end of their career.

It doesn't matter who we sign some people would put a negative spin on it, Although most seem to go very quiet when the question of who should we be signing is asked.

I am not impressed we have signed him for 3 yrs when he has yet to prove a consistent season in SL, I have not made one comment about his abilities....which bit of that do you fail to understand ?

indeed, and do you know for a fact that Wigan didn't try and keep O'Carroll? I'll answer, NO, you don't.

maybe, just maybe, he thinks a move to pastures new will freshen him up, maybe, just maybe, we offered him a better contract over the term?

I would imagine most other SL clubs would have been interested, but it doesn't matter, maybe AP/JR should run all the signings past you, check that you're impressed first, obviously you know so much more about the game than almost anyone else posting on here this morning.

So your comments about him not being able to break into the Wigan team aren't meant to be a reflection on his abilities?



BTW - are we still applying the rule that unless you've seen a player playing week in and week out your opinion doesn't count?

The bit you haven't explained properly.

So what do you think of his as a player?

Jesus Christ, WHOOOSH!!!

Can you not detect the sarcasm in FC Casual's post?????

Sarcasm detector out for repair. Which bit was sarcastic?

If it'd been Noble signing him next month bet you'd have been as happy as a pig in .

Loved the way you amended that to include JR then....it is pointless attempting to debate any-thing to do with our club with you due to your fantasy friendship with AP..
For the record I doubt AP is making any signings he will be receiving advice as by his own admission he is not knowledgeable enough in the sport yet.

O'Caroll
Welcome to the Huuuullll
Was it down to Agar, Pearson or Rule,
What colour is your hair,
I hope it isnt dyed,
Cos thats for Fags like Newton,
Who like to have a cry

Everything except the first line I think. Luckily I'd had my third cup of coffee and my sarcasm detector was just about warmed up.

Fookinf hell.

Although the homophobic reference is bang out of order and ar$eholes like Newton would have been much more pc.

where have I ever claimed a friendship with AP? I haven't, I know him and he knows me, we speak on infrequent occasion if I happen to see him, and if you think someone like AP isn't getting himself involved in signings and the general business plans then you are, quite frankly, an idiot.

It's pointless trying to debate with you because you change the basis of your opinion/argument to suit when you're being shown up as not really knowing very much, but I am sure you'll keep on doing it.

So, O'Carroll, as a player, not the length of the deal (seen as though you've flip flopped to that being the basis of your ire on the subject)

Decent enough player before his injury problems, not decent enough to throw a 3 yr deal at though especially with his injury record.
1 yr would have been better imo, see how he goes and leave yourself with options for what becomes available on the market.