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| Quote ="Sebasteeno"Is he the answer to our scrum half problems?'"
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| Quote ="Robbo4"Am I the only one who would be slightly concerned if Tansey had his hands on the ball on a regular basis in the middle of the pitch? Strikes me as an off the cuff type player who would take too many low percentage play options under pressure, which would not help us with our structured game plan IMO. I'd Play Berro at SH.'"
He also has a lot more space in which to work at FB, when he puts kicks in he is usually in a fair amount of space whereas at HB he'd be targeted and I'm not sure he'd be as effective.
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| Quote ="knocker norton"Berrigan to scrum half he has played there before and can do a job alongside Horne. Tansey is our main danger man out wide I dont see the point in changing that.'"
thats how itll happen
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| I don't think it will make much difference who the halfback pairing are. We have shown this season we are poor with ball in hand and look clueless the majority of the time. We seem to have one attacking move which involves Tansey coming into the attacking line, the rest of the time there is very little cohesion between the players.
One thing Horne will bring is a bit of backing up that the rest of the team seem incapable of doing for the majority of the time.
Would be interesting to know the percentage of the tries we have scored that have come from kicks.
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| Quote ="hullbg"I don't think it will make much difference who the halfback pairing are. We have shown this season we are poor with ball in hand and look clueless the majority of the time. We seem to have one attacking move which involves Tansey coming into the attacking line, the rest of the time there is very little cohesion between the players.
One thing Horne will bring is a bit of backing up that the rest of the team seem incapable of doing for the majority of the time.
Would be interesting to know the percentage of the tries we have scored that have come from kicks.'"
Apparently 20% of all SL tries come from kicks.
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| Yes but i am pretty sure more than 20% of our tries come from kicks. Thats why when our attacking kicking is poor we play poorly. Yet other teams can have some awful kicking on display yet still manage to score plenty of points with well worked moves and good running and backing up.
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| Quote ="hullbg"Yes but i am pretty sure more than 20% of our tries come from kicks. Thats why when our attacking kicking is poor we play poorly. Yet other teams can have some awful kicking on display yet still manage to score plenty of points with well worked moves and good running and backing up.'"
I guess you could watch HullFC.tv to check. I thought all of the tries from our last two home games came from passes - didn't see our Huddersfield tries.
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| Quote ="daveh"No. Quota and Salary Cap spring to mind!!'"
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| One of the reasons Widnes released Webster was on the understanding we wouldnt be asking him to play for us so its a guaranteed non starter.
Berro at 7, if Horne's back at 6 fine (heard hes way off according to one player). Otherwise it'll be Washy/Berro, which doesnt bode well for the remainder of the season.
Can we afford to sacrifce the rest of Cusacks season and bring someone on a short term deal from Oz/NZ? I cannot believe we are upto cap? Only other option is to blood one of our young kids, are they upto it? I doubt any other club would be willng to release one of their fringe halves to a playoff rival.
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| Quote ="t.m.t.b.f."One of the reasons Widnes released Webster was on the understanding we wouldnt be asking him to play for us so its a guaranteed non starter.
Berro at 7, if Horne's back at 6 fine (heard hes way off according to one player). Otherwise [uit'll be Washy/Berro, which doesnt bode well for the remainder of the season. [/u
Can we afford to sacrifce the rest of Cusacks season and bring someone on a short term deal from Oz/NZ? I cannot believe we are upto cap? Only other option is to blood one of our young kids, are they upto it? I doubt any other club would be willng to release one of their fringe halves to a playoff rival.'"
Understatement of the year. Both have been tried in the halves ad nauseam. Persisting with that combination when we've got Tansey and Whiting in good form available is an exercise in futility IMO.
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| Maybe Hall in the h/back role....
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"Maybe Hall in the h/back role....'"
Of all the options we have that is by far the worst one.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"icon_lol.gif Of all the options we have that is by far the worst one.'"
Really, I believe Washbrook remaining as one of the half backs is the worst option available.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"icon_lol.gif Of all the options we have that is by far the worst one.'"
Why?
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| Hall struggles to catch the ball at times, as proved again on Friday night. He certainly struggles with decision making, does not have the best passing game and can't kick.
What does he bring to the role? A bit of speed in the middle of the pitch maybe but seriously if we are depending on him we are screwed.
Washbrook, Turner, Whiting, Tansey and the young kid (whose name escapes me) are all far better options.
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| What about someone like Andy Kain from Fev or Thackery from Widnes (although I think if you went for the latter Terry O'Connor would explode)?
I am sure neither would be released with pleasure by their clubs but both have SL experience and have both been playing pretty well in a vastly improved second tier.
Surely borrowing one of them with a nice cash gift to the club would make more sense than blooding a young un or playing someone out of position. Hull have a real chance of top 4 and need someone who is a natural half back and who has played more than a handful of first team games, at any first team level.
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| So lets get this right, most of you want to play a full back (Tansey) at scrum half but some of you would like to see a hooker there (Berrigan) and now some of you even want to play a winger/centre (Hall) there too. Dont want to be too radical or anything but why dont we try and play a scrum half in the scrum half position, ie Webster who would do a better job than all three names that seem to be getting mentioned.
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| Quote ="Sebasteeno"So lets get this right, most of you want to play a full back (Tansey) at scrum half but some of you would like to see a hooker there (Berrigan) and now some of you even want to play a winger/centre (Hall) there too. Dont want to be too radical or anything but =#0000FFwhy dont we try and play a scrum half in the scrum half position, ie Webster who would do a better job than all three names that seem to be getting mentioned.'"
Quota, cap, age, registration, quality, desire. In roughly that order.
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| Not been through the entire thread, so sorry if this is repeating anything previously posted.
Is Webster actually eligable to play? What would be the registration process?
On a slightly different note, if Long's injury is going to be for the season, which is a highly probable, is there scope to bring in a replacement on loan / short term deal a la Matt Head (for example)?
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"Not been through the entire thread, so sorry if this is repeating anything previously posted.
Is Webster actually eligable to play? What would be the registration process?
On a slightly different note, if Long's injury is going to be for the season, which is a highly probable, is there scope to bring in a replacement on loan / short term deal a la Matt Head (for example)?'"
Koshs post above you sums up the Webster dilema.as for your other post...Agar has said we are not looking to bring anyone in but may keep options open....this must mean we have some money knocking about and IF they dont bring someone in and we can afford to bring one in then Agar must be held accountable to what happens the remainder of the season.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"Koshs post above you sums up the Webster dilema.as for your other post...Agar has said we are not looking to bring anyone in but may keep options open....this must mean we have some money knocking about and IF they dont bring someone in and [uwe can afford to bring one in then Agar must be held accountable to what happens the remainder of the season.'" [/u
agar's fault again!!!!!
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| Would we need Salford's permission or Saints permission to talk to Matty Smith?
And what is the score regarding his year loan. Can he be released early if a permanent contract was offered?
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| Quote ="Isaiah"Would we need Salford's permission or Saints permission to talk to Matty Smith?
And what is the score regarding his year loan. Can he be released early if a permanent contract was offered?'"
For 2011?
I think he falls into the category of too good to be Long's understudy, not good enough to be his replacement.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Quota, cap, age, registration, quality, desire. In roughly that order.'"
wrong again, he wouldnt be on the quota, and his wage is already included on the cap.
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| Quote ="Black and white legend"wrong again, he wouldnt be on the quota, and his wage is already included on the cap.'"
Off quota maybe but surely he's non fed and we haven't any room for another.
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