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| Quote ="al283"Body language from BH really poor, last 2 weeks seen him behind the posts on warm up & at the bench on Friday - but no talk with anybody at all !! Feel for him & AP & many of the players. Has to start with a culture reset otherwise tweaking personnel will not make a difference.'" I’ve said it on here before but the guy has no ‘fire in his belly’ it’s something you can even see during the game by how stoic he is.
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| Quote ="The Hollywood Frasier"I’ve said it on here before but the guy has no ‘fire in his belly’ it’s something you can even see during the game by how stoic he is.'" So was Brian Smith. What's your point
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| Quote ="The Hollywood Frasier"I’ve said it on here before but the guy has no ‘fire in his belly’ it’s something you can even see during the game by how stoic he is.'"
It’s an Aussie thing, hardly show emotions, unless your scoring tries a la Wolff. Wasn’t very stoic at the end of the Wakey game, almost in tears. I think that alone shows how passionate he is.
This shower of a team is enough to put any bonfire out. Certainly has mine.
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| Quote ="hull2524"So was Brian Smith. What's your point'"
The players played for Brian Smith and respected him
You cant say the same for Hodgson
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| Quote ="bonaire"The players played for Brian Smith and respected him
You cant say the same for Hodgson'" Hence he's sorting it out. Or do you just sack the coach like we have done in the past.
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| Quote ="hull2524"Hence he's sorting it out. Or do you just sack the coach like we have done in the past.'"
I would sack him as i cant see anything he has done that has enhanced us as a club at first team level and thats what counts and brings in the money for the club.
We are going backwards fast.
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| Quote ="hull2524"So was Brian Smith. What's your point'" He is before my time but a quick google search doesn’t back up what you’re saying, he was fined a few times for his conduct in postgame interviews in the NRL and had a very public falling out with Bill Harrigan.
You don’t think a coach is there to motivate their players? Like I’ve said before the hours he puts in at the club is commendable but I don’t think he is the correct personality type to get us out of this mess.
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| Didn't expect him to be bawling - just interacting.
A few words of encouragement here & there, quick review of how players carrying knocks where feeling ???
Just looked completely isolated, surely can't be at loggerheads with the entire squad ??
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| Well sorry guys but he ain't going Anywhere
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| Quote ="bonaire"The players played for Brian Smith and respected him
You cant say the same for Hodgson'"
Hodgson is more like Peter Gentle than Brian Smith.
Both are undoubtedly likeable, decent, honest, hard working men. Gentle is clearly respected as an assistant coach with a CV to back it up. He was just out of his depth in a head coach role.
Hodgson like Gentle has been very unlucky with injuries to his squad but similarly seems to lack a Plan B. They are both quietly spoken and as Hollywood says Hodgson doesn't appear to have that X Faxtor to lift or motivate his team.
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| Quote ="hull2524"Well sorry guys but he ain't going Anywhere'"
Are you speaking metaphorically?
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"20 years ago nearly with loads of money and a golden generation emerging. What Radford did at Hull is more impressive, in many ways. You can chuck in Smith’s time at Wire and the scales are still not far off balanced.
After 25+ years of SL how do we define success and failure? I’d say there is a huge, possibly now unbridgeable, gulf between how it is defined by small number of top SL clubs and the rest. 10 years ago, I could convince myself that if another club got this or that just right they could maybe join the elite or displace one of them. Now, it feels really unlikely. We’re left hoping for a Leicester City 15-16, one amazing year, scenario. It’s by no means unique to SL - all the big football leagues in Europe have massive issues with competitive imbalance. But it’s understood and acknowledged. In RL people don’t seem to have come to terms with it and spout all sorts of (imo) rubbish about the salary cap or bringing through kids to keep it a strange mystery.'"
Been saying similar for years. If you look at all the SL Grand Finals there's a pretty small percentage of participants that aren't the Big 3 (Saints, Wigan, Leeds) since the demise of Bradford. You need cash for first team and a strong pipeline/ infrastructure. Outside of these and Warrington there's not enough cash for clubs to afford both.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Been saying similar for years. If you look at all the SL Grand Finals there's a pretty small percentage of participants that aren't the Big 3 (Saints, Wigan, Leeds) since the demise of Bradford. You need cash for first team and a strong pipeline/ infrastructure. Outside of these and Warrington there's not enough cash for clubs to afford both.'"
There's a striking difference between the Grand Final and Challenge Cup Final. Only three Grand Final winners in sixteen years yet the Challenge Cup has had six different winners in six seasons and six finalists in the last three.
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| Quote ="Smiggs"Are you speaking metaphorically?'" No figuratively speaking . Thought you would have known that
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Been saying similar for years. If you look at all the SL Grand Finals there's a pretty small percentage of participants that aren't the Big 3 (Saints, Wigan, Leeds) since the demise of Bradford. You need cash for first team and a strong pipeline/ infrastructure. Outside of these and Warrington there's not enough cash for clubs to afford both.'"
I think RL needs to improve competitive balance as a priority.
In SL we know who the favourites will be for the 2027 season already… if we keep the same general format. In the Championship the standard varies massively. Leigh scored 100 against mid-table York today. Internationally, England have don’t beat Australia and France don’t beat England.
It requires some imagination and probably some very difficult decisions.
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| Quote ="mwindass"https://twitter.com/M_Shaw1/status/1561671302762708992?t=sxajYVDfhEbUIvw8r31pZQ&s=19
Would Dennis Betts be worth a punt as an assistant or head of rugby?
This doesn't mean I want it to happen
Just an idea.
He'll know Brett from Widnes'"
Its a no from me, as great a player as Betts was and the success he had as a player at Wigan its not transitioned in to him being a Head Coach with a very good track record for success.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Been saying similar for years. If you look at all the SL Grand Finals there's a pretty small percentage of participants that aren't the Big 3 (Saints, Wigan, Leeds) since the demise of Bradford. You need cash for first team and a strong pipeline/ infrastructure. Outside of these and Warrington there's not enough cash for clubs to afford both.'"
I don't think the amount of teams making the Grand Final has been too bad, in the last decade Saints, Wigan, Catalans, Salford, Warrington, Leeds and Cas have been there which is just over half the league and the finals themselves have been good games, its just Saints have started to dominate the last few years
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| Let's say he goes this week, who do you bring in.
First choice for has to be Wane.
I wouldn't mind Tony Smith to steady the ship for a year, then move to DOR and help bring in his successor.
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| I'd love to see Wane. Think it would be the wake up call that a few players badly need.
As you say I think Tony Smith would do well with us.
Michael Maguire's record in the NRL looks poor (I don't know enough about the NRL to know if there's any other circumstances involved in that) but he did well previously in Super League. He'd surely be better than what he have now.
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| smith.?record for rovers .played 42 won 14.no thanks.dont want the grub wane either.
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| I've said it before, the appointment of another unproven head coach was a gamble and it hasn't paid off.
If my records are correct, ten times we've been behind at half time this season and we've gone on to lose every one of them.
Nice bloke but out of his depth and unable to motivate the team.
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| Ok maybe Hodgson isn't the answer. But he's not the rot that seems to envelope this club. Getting rid of him will leave the main problem in situation. Some of the players today where shameful. Never mind the coach there where beyond terrible. Hodgson isn't blameless but the rot needs sorting
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| No further Pass or Merchandise purchases from me until he is replaced, can't keep throwing money after bad and Pearson doesn't seem to want to listen to the fans, when was the last time the club held a forum or even sent us a survey?
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| Quote ="Dave K."Let's say he goes this week, who do you bring in.
Quote First choice for has to be Wane.
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I wouldn't mind Tony Smith to steady the ship for a year, then move to DOR and help bring in his successor.'"
Definitely.
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