I've never been to a derby and felt so relaxed, even the 42-6 game I felt until 20 to go you had a chance, but yesterday I felt it was won at half time. I thought you lot were ovrreacting but not anymore.

You need to get out more. Maybe Thearne?

Looking towards the Saints game I can't see who Radford can bring in to replace certain players.

Ellis hopefully in for Hadley how he gets in most weeks I'll never know.
Logan isn't super league standard.
hopefully drop Bowden as he's the same as Hadley.

Something like:

Shaul
Lancaster
Talanoa
Michaels
Lineham
Pryce
Rankin
Paea
Howarth
Thompson
Ellis
Mini
Westerman

Houghton
Feka
Watts
Turgut

Depending how bad Watts injury is of course.

My only post this weekend as intend to enjoy it with the family, this is easily the worst and least organised attacking team I have either seen at Hull, no line structure, no offloads, no backing up, no capable of breaking the line, no brains and appalling last tackle, when you need to score 3 try's and on the last your prop just runs it in that sums it up.

My mate said to me with 8 minutes to go, if we get near there line and we put a nothing bomb up we are off. 5 minutes later we were in the pub.

As missed Sneyd badly, Rankin isn't a half back, should play HTW or Abdul there on Monday. I'd drop or move Talanoa, the kid can't catch and has cost us big the last two weeks for appalling attempts.

For the first time in years as it stands even with a pass I'm not going on Friday unless things change, they have my money but not wasting my time and money on drinks, petrol etc.

Radford out.

Enjoy your weekend people.

Our offensive line was flatter then our defensive line it was shocking. Rovers deserved the win but we could have played another two hour sand not scored.We put no pressure on Rovers line ,no kicks through to try and get repeat sets,no dummy runners ,no off loads, no nothing .sorry but thats totally un defensible. Unless things change we are doomed to championship rugby and the sad thing is we have some really decent players .

There`s been some awful matches over the years but that effort last night was UTTER GARBAGE.
Straight from the off we persist in giving high kickoffs into a safe pair of hands every time, what is wrong with kicking off with ball rolling all over the floor is just one example of our total ineptitude.
We had no idea at all last night and the trip over to Saints is now cancelled for me, I`m not wasting time and money on another Radfordesque performance.

Was Pearson at the game last night?
If so I hope he thought that we were utterly embarrassing and that these performances are totally unacceptable.
Radford blaming the players again does nothing for moral or endear himself to the team but I suppose he can continue to then deflect the blame from himself and convince Adam it's not his fault.

I've definitely had enough. I didn't renew my pass this season due to the Radford effect and think I've made the right decision. Barring last night as I was at work til just before kick off I've attended every home game as a paying supporter but no more for me.
Pearson needs to know that we will not be mugged off anymore and accept this clown as a coach any longer.
For me as much as it hurts I will not 're attend whilst Radford is in charge and I'm sure I won't be the only one.
Hopefully the pain of not going will lessen but it still has to be better than the match day experience of feeling angry, upset bored to tears and thoroughly pee'd off.

He needs to

I said to my mate last night we might as well bring back Agar, the team is going backwards. I have never been so bored watching a Hull team play.

Just read all the posts and cannot find anything to disagree with. I am a passholder but I really didnt want to go last night because I just knew what they would serve up and I hate losing to KR.

I listenned to Humberside on the way home and even found myself agreeing with Gwilem Lloyd that's how bad we have become but on comes Radford and its the players fault for taking the wrong option on the last play ect ect but then I thought hang on that means they are following your game plan until the last play. Needs to walk.

It must be a real skill to get that bunch of players to play that bad. They must go through drills of how to stand still and watch the man with the ball run at the opposition. A dummy runner must be a dummy, I'm not doing that. Backing up means I have to move my legs, someone bring me a beer while I practice standing at the bar.
Take a bow Minichello and Paea because at least you had a go

We are the luckiest team in Superleague. We are a very poor team but over the last few weeks we have been so fortunate. We have played Wigan who were totally responsible for their own downfall. Saints who played their worst match of the season and now FC who were absolute garbage. Long may it continue.

I'm not panicking, he's given me until July 2

If you ask me, Rovers were very poor. I think that says it all about us.

On the evidence of last night either there isn't one, the players don't or can't understand it or they're all on different pages. How else do you explain Houghton's grubbed kick to no one that led directly to a Rovers try?

It gave me more entertainment than the entirety of last night!

Not saying there hasn't been one, but I can't remember a more inept,boring derby performance.
The whole club is a shambles, from the management down.
Management - Pearson's now in his 4th season at the helm & appears more clueless each year. - slow learner or what?
Coaching - All that needs to be said about about Radford has been said, just wish he'd p!ss off & take his mates & Club Hull dross with him.
Recruitment - Appalling! Worryingly Radford has Tony targeting next seasons recruits, & I see we're already rewarding mediocrity. (Talanoa 2yr contract,)
probably followed by Yeaman.
We pay 100,0000 for Sneyd. Rovers sign Kelly. (Not Knocking Sneyd but i know who I'd rather have)
Ourselves & Rovers needed a hooker when the season started, we sign Howarth rovers sign Lunt. Says it all about our `recruitment team' I suppose.
I really don't know, how we get out of the hole we're in, but as `we're just one game away from turning around' - it can't be as bad as I see it, can it?

Feeling better now? Only hurting FC fans are saying that. We did not play all that well or as well as we can but we were not very poor. I know how you feel as I have had similar experiences oner the years.

I don't know what the new overseas recruits thought about the atmosphere last night, but after all the hype, I think they may have been massively underwhelmed. The Rovers fans obviously made a racket, but 3/4 of the ground looked like they had been forced in at gunpoint. One half cock version of "old faithful" and very little else. It's not easy when your not playing well, but I don't think Hull fans are helping the team at the moment.

Very quite last night, was ok till the match started then nowt, saying that it was like watching paint dry

It's a two way street though. The fans need something to get behind

I could write a list as long as my arm on things that we are doing wrong purely from an on field, technical PoV.

- We don't play close enough to the line, all our passing plays happen 5 yards+ away from the defensive line and it makes it easy for the defence to adjust.
- No one ever runs in a straight line and commits defenders, the first step is always sideways, it cuts down our space and prevents the defence from having to make any quick decisions.
- Support play is poor.
- Ptb speed is poor.
- There never seems to be a plan to the sets, it's just 5 random plays with seemingly no overall goal.
- We never target specific defenders.
- Our attacking kicks are largely aimless.
- Kicking for touch on penalties is unambitious.
- The attacking line is too flat, someone needs to come on the ball from deep and at pace, but because everything is so flat and sideways people are either catching the ball stood still, or catching it whilst running towards the sideline, so our penetration is nil.
- Dummy runners never run with any conviction, you've got to convince the defence that you're getting the ball, but ours just jog through often not even looking at the ball.
- Passing is slow.
- No one runs the team, it's every man for himself, and as a result you get kicks and passing coming in that no one was expecting other than the man who delivered it.

I could go on aswell, and I've not even mentioned attitude or commitment, or any of the more off field stuff like team selection and recruitment.

Pearson obviously isn't knowledgeable about the game or how it's played. He obviously knows that we are playing badly, but because he doesn't know what he's looking at he will just listen to whatever Radford is saying and take it as gospel, and Radford is obviously putting the blame on the players.

The fact is we are a rabble. The players can't be 100% blame free, but the vast majority of our problems stem from the way we are coached. I just really hope Pearson sees it before it's too late.

I feel fine, and will go to saints monday. I really don't care about Rugby results that much anymore, it does not drive my life as it once did. Rovers were not that good at all, it is not a criticism, just a fact. Very poor is probably not fair, I agree, but I meant it more about how bad we were than you.

Good post. Agree with all of it

Look mate,Rovers totally out played us,its a fact.IF we looked like we were going to score a try at any given moment I would have put the flags out. Even the one we scored was dubious. If Rovers had played like Hull you would be saying the same thing.

Need to watch the game again because you miss things in the heat of the moment but defensively I thought we looked quite strong and for most of the 1st half we kept kr in there own half , I may be wrong but they only really stepped foot in our 20 from 2 penaltys in which they scored 2 try's , the 3 off a mistake from Talanoa . In that first half they seemed some very dubious call from the ref for there pensaltys aswell as the raising of the legs which went un punished (like I say I need to watch over again to be sure it wasn't just my black n white glasses) . The second half was possibly the worse half of rugby since SL started . On kr's 5th n lasted campese was giving so much time with his kicks it was a joke , attacking wise ..... well I really don't know we're to start it was depressing to watch and so predictable , really missed sneyde last night all our kick plays were shocking . I know a lot of flack falls on the shoulders of the coaches and fair enough but once they cross that white wash its upto the players , We looked rudderless while Campese coached that kr team to the win .
Anyway spending some time over easter with loved ones and then saints away !!! COYH iakow

You say that AP isn't knowledgeable about the game, but he's been immersed in it for getting on for 4 years. That's enough time to build up a basic but solid understanding - it's RL not astrophysics. Tbh, it's long enough to pick up at least the basics of the latter.
His mistakes have been more presentational and political - the early triumphalism that was followed 'only' by focused/limited investment, then (with hindsight) sacking off the wrong faction when there was a split in the camp.