It's the fifth time i've seen Williams this season and barring flashes against Doncaster (pre-season) i dont think i'm seeing what others do.

We missed Crooks and Lyne today, and to an extent Laurence Pearce, as we gave away a lot of size.

Williams was the one i went to see on the few times i have been and he is distinctly average...why else have we signed another 7??? Agree about crooks...Lynne not so sure as he doesnt seem to ar$ed when ive seen him...agree about Pearce...big sod aint he

Would you be d playing in a comp like the under 20s?



Massive error not having him and Washy on dual reg with Fev/Batley/Sheff.

It is one of the better things to come from the RFL in recent years and Lynne and Washbrook would be getting some quality game time playing with decent enough players instead of against kids, many of who will not make the grade in SL

He's huge! I have some hope for him but he puffs and pants too much after each drive and becomes lax in the tackle. I don't think he's training anything close to full time yet so he could make some big leaps forward if given the chance.

Agree with the above comments about Lynne; the under 20s serve no benefit to him, he needs to be playing NL1 minimum to develop further.

Shows waht he can do on the big stage! ' Hull FC winger Reece Lyne was the stand out man for the England side, running in four tries to end the game with a personal tally of 16 points in a man of the match performance to help England secure a winning margin of 28-19'.

Without Lynne and Crooks, Hull FC were always going to struggle in this game and actually did very well to keep it as tight as they did.

Agree with the comments about Aldous and Bowden who both play with their heart on their sleeve, but does anyone honestly think they are physically equipped to play Super League?

Given the choice, I would personally choose both Jordan Cox and James Green (from Rovers) above them.

Anyone disagree?

Farmer Giles pointed that out to me at the game today. It's further demonstration that he shoul be playing competative rugby on a regular basis; if not in Hull's first team at a lower end SL club (there's not many, I know) or NL club. The under 20s can do no more for him.

I disagree

Green reminds me of a young David Mills and Cox is from the Clint Newton school of wide running second rows



Aldous lacks size but makes up for it in heart but cannot see him becoming a first team regular, but Bowden looks like he could carry the frame

I'd disagree about Cox, he only gets involved when the ball is close to the opposition try line, spends all of his time hiding out in the centres while the rest of the pack do the graft.

Bowden looks physically strong enough and will increase his size with the passing years, not sure about Aldous though. He's got plenty of heart but he's just to small in stature imo.

Cox impressed me, again. He'll make it through to the first team - he's a real handful. Wasn't impressed with L Sheriffe, but then it was a drab game with few really stamping their authority on the game.

I agree about Aldous, he drives the ball like his life depends upon it every carry but he's too small to impact on SL. The fact Agar gave him time against Oldham suggests he may get chances, though.

Who are you

Was you the guy in the burger van queue with the bad B.O. and the ketchup moustache

Yup, that was me. I was going for a look and smell that would allow me to blend in with the locals. It obviously failed as I was noticed.

I know exactly what you are saying Hutchie.

But, being realistic, all of these players are 'work in progress' at this moment in time.

Physically, there is no contest. Cox and Green could be 'anything', Bowden and Aldous in particular are limited.

You don't agree?

In the few U20 games which I've seen Jack play, he's always stood out and looked 'senior' to me, If he bulked up on top, do you think he would be useful from the bench as a short spell impact prop? You do have to question why we are not seeing these guys coming through into the first team. Is it due to them not been ready/good enough? are the club holding them back to allow time to physically develop? or is it simply due to us having a good run on the injury front? (

Fingers crossed no jinx's)

Do you support Rovers ?

Though i do agree that Aldous may not be big enough at the moment give him time to bulk up 1st, then im sure him and Bowden will make it at FC. Also as Hutchie pointed out Cox doesnt do enough graft at the moment to be ' anything'. He is dangerous when close to the line but goes missing when his team is on the back foot, not something i like in players TBH.

All I am saying is there is a very clear ceiling to what Aldous and Bowden can achieve in the game because of their physical limitations.

For that reason, Cox and Green have more potential. You could even say the same about Pearce, though he has a long way to go!

Size is not everything just look at Pryce huge bloke still crap though.

You don't have to be Jim Rockford to work that one out.

Rhetorical question

JMR is definitely a WUM.

For such a big lad, Green barely makes any yards. Didn't even notice he was on the pitch for large periods.

How did we line up?

Lets just get the kid to cart the ball up through the middle in every set, tire him out so when we get down to the buisness end of the pitch he hasn't much left. Clever thinking there!

My god, you must be Richard Agar

From the team sheet

1. DANNY SWALES
2. CRAWFORD MATTHEWS
3. LIAM CUNNINGHAM
4. NEV MORRISON
5. JACK BRISCOE
6. JACK PICKERILL
7. LEE WILLIAMS
8. JOSH BOWDEN
9. JAMES NEWTON
10. JACK ALDOUS
11. CHRIS GREEN
12. ALEC MORRIS
13. LIAM KENT

SUBS
AUSTIN BELL
RYAN SPOUSE
DANNY BLOOM
TOM LINEHAM

James Green has always been huge since under 8s, shame that he has also always been soft as 5hyte. I was quite suprised when I found out he was at Rovers tbh.