Allam has shown his true colours from day one, for those who wished to see. Problem is many were blinded by the 'saviour of Hull City' thing. Alarmingly, people who don't have a vested interest - I.e. the majority of voters in Hull - will still view it like this first and foremost, and not bother to look further.

His crazy rants (coconuts and toffee apples) and petulance (Melton), coupled with his business shrewdness (Hull City were bought with a loan from Allam Marine; Hull KR's 'gift' was also a loan) and ruthlessness (Pearson, Barmby and now Picturegate) show what a dangerous adversary he is. And has been all along.

Absolutely correct, I was speaking to some folks who are in a badminton team (not rugby fans) and the general consensus was that Allam was a great guy who was interested in all sports in the city!

I strongly suspect that the club have / will be doing one of two things;

1) Working out a strategy to appease the fans of Hull FC when it becomes known that they refused to pay for the putting up of pictures as they didn't see it as an issue.

OR as I strongly suspect

2) They are sitting back and allowing us the fans a say on the matter and watching as this rides out in the media and Allam is shown for the fool he is. It will only generate bad feeling in the area towards Mr Allam and his family and in turn his business interests. When the time is good AP and HFC will comment which I am certain will be some time after the issue has been resolved.

I will add I think one or two need reminding that the money for the stadium came from the sale of a company that serviced the East Riding not just Hull. The people who have the STD code 01482 all have a stake in that stadium. Mr Allam is being foolish if he thinks that it is merely the people of Hull he has to concentrate on.

A lot more questions need to be asked of this man before much too long. He and his cohorts are a danger to the fine club that we support. Need to keep him close otherwise we are in deep bother. The writing has been on the wall from day one.

see as the kc.com agreed to be the name of the stadium in 2002 (signed a 10 year contract) and in 2012 didn't kc agree a deal for the naming rights of the stadium till now 2025 ????????

so the kc stadium is here till 2025 (i think lol) after that it might by call "THE ALLAM'S STADIUM"

If he strengthens city at the back he could call it the Alamo.

There is a confidentiality clause in their lease which if over stepped could see then in breach of their contract and liable for chucking out. Its not as simple as that of course but you get the idea but when I asked the question it is certainly down to their confidentiality clause. I guess that Mr Allam has tried to charge them an additional fee for something that has been there all the time they have decided quite rightly that they are not paying for it and its the folks who beniffited from the service that was already provided that are now complaining and quite rightly.


AND before any smart Cityites come on here and say "we are paying whats your problem" I am sick of their inability to grasp a simple situation. Try this guys, anyone can charge themselves anything! I charged myself a million quid this morning for making my breakfast. My 'company' that provides breakfast' is £1m up my 'company' that consumes Breakfast is £1m down, Me, well I aint out of pocket at all really! So its not been a bad days trading

I note you didn't have the hash browns, well over priced at £35,000 each, good choice!

Brilliant!!!

You would be £200,000 out of pocket once you settled your corporation tax.

The Squash championships that will be with us later this year sponsored by Allam will these guys need to pay for signage, images that are used around the stadium?

Also who is paying for the Andy Dawson Testimonial adverts that are all over the stadium? Hull City and is this within the £20k or is Dr Allam charging a player who is celebrating his testimonial money for these posters?

Well done Pony, £200k increase in corporation tax for one company and a decrease of £200k for the other

Both Hull FC and Hull City are tennants at the KC Stadium. "Dr" Allam does not own The KC Stadium, He owns Hull City Football Club. His Son runs SMC which is the Stadia Management Company, who ultimately should pay all monies from both tennats to Hull City Council for the use and maintainance of the KC Stadium.

I personally think that the SMC should be run by someone or a consortium not associated to either party (Hull FC or Hull City) so that impartial decisions regarding the likes of the hanging of memorabilia in aptly named suites are made in the interest of the people of Hull, and not charged for the privilege!

How does that work if both companies are loss making?

£1.2m in the bank at the SMC

are your Tonys Textiles diddlums up to date?

If we are looking at SMC and Hull City corporation tax is only paid on a companies profits so the £200k would not be relevant, a little like your post!

I think the fans of Hull City should be equally worried. The man is obviously not rational and I wouldn't be surprised to see him walk away, especially if they don't get into the premiership this season.

Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"I understand that you have stated you will not comment further, but I can't help but thinking that you will keep an eye on this thread. Firstly, as has been pointed out, to the Allams The KC Stadium is not [itheir[/i property. Something a lot of City fans find hard to grasp. Secondly your comment of "Neither Hull City nor Hull FC have any right to to put pictures up." is difficult to verify. Despite not having read the lease agreement (something I doubt you will have either). I am confident there is nothing in the agreement between the tenants and SMC about hanging pictures on walls. I am also confident there is nothing in the agreement which states that either club CANNOT hang pictures on the walls. This leads to the main issue of implied terms of contracts. For the first 10 years of usage of the stadium there has been nothing preventing the showing of this memorabilia. Therefore it becomes implied that it is not a problem and its something which will not be challenged. Finally, and connected to the second point. The SMC cannot change the terms of a contract (written or implied) without the consent of both parties. Now that's the legals out of the way. If you cannot see the substance of what is happening, then you really do have a bigger issue to address.'" It seems city 1904 reckons he only came on here to wind us all up. . I just read a few of the threads on not 606.com, and talk about the hatred towards our club. Do most forums have a AUP?, because if they have, every rule in the book has been broken and thats just the City forum on there. Read here.www.not606.com/showthread.php/19 ... y-!/page13

Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"I understand that you have stated you will not comment further, but I can't help but thinking that you will keep an eye on this thread. Firstly, as has been pointed out, to the Allams The KC Stadium is not [itheir[/i property. Something a lot of City fans find hard to grasp. Secondly your comment of "Neither Hull City nor Hull FC have any right to to put pictures up." is difficult to verify. Despite not having read the lease agreement (something I doubt you will have either). I am confident there is nothing in the agreement between the tenants and SMC about hanging pictures on walls. I am also confident there is nothing in the agreement which states that either club CANNOT hang pictures on the walls. This leads to the main issue of implied terms of contracts. For the first 10 years of usage of the stadium there has been nothing preventing the showing of this memorabilia. Therefore it becomes implied that it is not a problem and its something which will not be challenged. Finally, and connected to the second point. The SMC cannot change the terms of a contract (written or implied) without the consent of both parties. Now that's the legals out of the way. If you cannot see the substance of what is happening, then you really do have a bigger issue to address.'" It seems city 1904 reckons he only came on here to wind us all up. . I just read a few of the threads on not 606.com, and talk about the hatred towards our club. Do most forums have a AUP?, because if they have, every rule in the book has been broken and thats just the City forum on there. Read here.www.not606.com/showthread.php/19 ... y-!/page13

And as a City fan you probably dont know who Raich Carter or Ken Wagstaff are let alone where Bopthferry Park was - Bandwaggoner

The city fans were livid re Pearson and Barmby gate. I agree they need to be worried, this man has no real interest in anything other than feathering his own nest, IMO.

Quote ="F.C. Aces"It seems city 1904 reckons he only came on here to wind us all up. . I just read a few of the threads on not 606.com, and talk about the hatred towards our club. Do most forums have a AUP?, because if they have, every rule in the book has been broken and thats just the City forum on there. Read here.www.not606.com/showthread.php/19 ... y-!/page13'" I know its unrelated but can someone tell me how many cups City have won in their illustrious history? I wasn't sure if I should laugh or cry at that forum thread.

Quote ="F.C. Aces"It seems city 1904 reckons he only came on here to wind us all up. . I just read a few of the threads on not 606.com, and talk about the hatred towards our club. Do most forums have a AUP?, because if they have, every rule in the book has been broken and thats just the City forum on there. Read here.www.not606.com/showthread.php/19 ... y-!/page13'" I know its unrelated but can someone tell me how many cups City have won in their illustrious history? I wasn't sure if I should laugh or cry at that forum thread.

I think to be fair at first they were livid with how the Allams treated Barmby but when they got in Bruce they saw they got the better man to try and take them up

Bruce isn't a better man than Barmby, he's a yes man

They are happy for now, but will be riled again soon enough.

Each pro club in this city has a glut of fickle fans.

It was a city fan that told me that unless they go up to increase their income next year, they will breach the new Fifa financial rules (the 2009 ones IIRC)
I have not read into it in any detail, as I couldn't care less to be honest (not a dig at City by the way)

Finally, I think we as a collective, need to get some more sensible city fans on our side. There are people that support both teams.

Main requirement for the Allams.