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| Quote ="thehullwhitestar"
Come on Hull, show some ambition FFS !!!!!'"
If they've tried to replace Dowes with a better player but have been unsuccessful (for whatever reason), it doesn't necessarily mean they're showing a 'lack of ambition', does it?
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| Quote ="Amadeo Avogadro"Whiting at loose, Fitz to prop. That's what you meant, isn't it?
And what's a "goon 'un"?'" It's a phrase Tony Adams once used after Arsenal lifted the Premiership title. I wouldn't mind, but the N key is nowhere near the D???
And no, the first bit is not what i meant! Whiting is unproven at 13 and 4 coaches have not seen what you've "seen" to suggest he could do it.
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| Quote ="thehullwhitestar"Giving a new contract to one of Dowes/Radford isn't the end of the world as long as we have a quality prop to come in (like Fielden) but if we re-sign both of them, it will be a sign that we are quite happy to challenge for top 6 and stay were we are without actually having much chance of silverware.
Dowes is not good enough and I would rather go with what we've got and keep looking into the season 2011 than give him an extension almost by default.
Come on Hull, show some ambition FFS !!!!!'"
Oh for gods sake some people really spout bollox. Lack of ambition? So trying to sing the likes of LMS, Fielden and Westerman is a lack of ambition is it. You can't always get what you want.
I always saw this offseason as a consolidation period and expect a much bigger off season next year. For a start we have no overseas spots and have no big earners leaving. Two or three shrew signings this year along with a couple of big ones for next year aswell as young players maturing and I will be happy.
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| Quote ="FC Wembley 08"I think you've just picked out the bits you want there and ignored my other points
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That's exactly what I did, as those were the areas I disagreed about. Glad you spotted that, well done.
Quote ="FC Wembley 08"If you think that Radford's offloads cause us as much damage as the opposition, than you need to get yourself a season pass next year and go to a few more games.'"
I've barely missed a home game since I started going around 2002, season ticket holder until this year, so that includes all of Radford's time here. His offloads find the ground almost as often as one of our players, and often cost us yards rather than gain them. It's far from an area I'd pick out as a strength of his.
Quote ="FC Wembley 08"How many times does a pass come to Dowes and he knocks on??'"
A similar amount to Radford, it's a weakness in both their games, as is losing the ball in the tackle.
Quote ="FC Wembley 08"I'm not saying Radford is the best player in the world but he's on a totally different level to Dowes, and also has the coaching attributes which Dowes just doesn't....'"
I just disagree, there's no 'totally different level'. There's barely anything at all in it from a playing perspective. And the coaching attributes are irrelevant on this matter too.
Quote ="FC Wembley 08"Radford's got quite a good medal collection for a shiiiiite player that's spent most of his time in a Hull side which you don't rate too highly!!
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I don't see the relevance of the medals issue on their current merits if I'm honest. And I've not come anywhere near saying he's shiiite. If you bother to have a look you'll see I'm pleased with him staying.
On the other point, I haven't rated the quality of rugby FC play for a number of years, no, but our effectiveness is much better this year. I don't think anyone can agree we've been a good side in the previous 2 seasons though.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"
And no, the first bit is not what i meant! Whiting is unproven at 13 and 4 coaches have not seen what you've "seen" to suggest he could do it.'"
Not that old chestnut! He's not been used at 13 by a succession of coaches because he's either been injured himself or covering another injury elsewhere. He'd make a great 13. If we ever see him given a go there, I'll look forward to the written apology and conciliatory toffee crisp you'll no doubt extend in my direction.
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| Quote ="Amadeo Avogadro"If they've tried to replace Dowes with a better player but have been unsuccessful (for whatever reason), it doesn't necessarily mean they're showing a 'lack of ambition', does it?'"
Exactly.
Sometimes things are out of the clubs control.
Last years recruitment was a step in the right direction to correct the situation..
Maybe have a little faith until those in charge say that's us finished for this year..
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Oh for gods sake some people really spout bollox. Lack of ambition? So trying to sing the likes of LMS, Fielden and Westerman is a lack of ambition is it. You can't always get what you want.
I always saw this offseason as a consolidation period and expect a much bigger off season next year. For a start we have no overseas spots and have no big earners leaving. Two or three shrew signings this year along with a couple of big ones for next year aswell as young players maturing and I will be happy.'"
Bollox ?? Really ?? So we miss out on every available prop to various clubs and re-sign Radford and Dowes !! Fanfookingtastic !!
BTW, shrews are way too small to play in SL !!
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| Quote ="thehullwhitestar"Bollox ?? Really ?? So we miss out on every available prop to various clubs and re-sign Radford and Dowes !! Fanfookingtastic !!
BTW, shrews are way too small to play in SL !!
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But not a lack of ambition. Attempted ambition resulting in failure. Not the same thing.
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| Quote ="thehullwhitestar"Bollox ?? Really ?? So we miss out on every available prop to various clubs and re-sign Radford and Dowes !! Fanfookingtastic !!
BTW, shrews are way too small to play in SL !!
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Fielden - decides to stay where he is currently which happens to be top of the league.
LMS - decides to move to one of the best clubs around who challenge year on year and play fabulous rugby.
They have both made choices, a lack of ambition would have been not to try.
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| Quote ="Amadeo Avogadro"Not that old chestnut! He's not been used at 13 by a succession of coaches because he's either been injured himself or covering another injury elsewhere. He'd make a great 13. If we ever see him given a go there, I'll look forward to the written apology and conciliatory toffee crisp you'll no doubt extend in my direction.'" I wouldn't hold your breath.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"I wouldn't hold your breath.'"
A double decker then?
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| Quote ="FC Wembley 08"Are you actually on crack?? So we weren't missing Ogre for over a month with a broken rib, Fitz for a few weeks (at the same time) with his shoulder!!
Calderwood all season, Rich Whiting!! Have I missed anyone??'"
I guess i must be (whatever crack is) !! however what i recall is having replacement s for the names you mentioned but not for the halves..
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| Quote ="FC Wembley 08"I know what he meant and agree that halves have been the worst hit but he's still wrong. We had multiple injuries in the same positions at the most important times!!'"
so if you knew what i meant why the ehawk reply then, idiot
just attack the post without the personal insults if you know what that means
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| Quote ="EXPRO"so if you knew what i meant why the ehawk reply then, idiot icon_rolleyes.gif
just attack the post without the personal insults if you know what that means'"
Practice what you preach matey
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| Quote ="thehullwhitestar"Bollox ?? Really ?? So we miss out on every available prop to various clubs and re-sign Radford and Dowes !! Fanfookingtastic !!
BTW, shrews are way too small to play in SL !!
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careful paul , the spelling police are here again ...
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| Quote ="Chris28"Practice what you preach matey
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and in they jump again, laughable just laughable you are
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| Quote ="Chris28"Practice what you preach matey
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look back apart from defensive situations recently when have i attacked anyone on here personally... shall we try never.. go back on post mate and dont try to derail todays postings as well ok
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Fielden - decides to stay where he is currently which happens to be top of the league.
LMS - decides to move to one of the best clubs around who challenge year on year and play fabulous rugby.
They have both made choices, a lack of ambition would have been not to try.'"
Unusually this year there is little movement and what movement there is attracts interest from everyone including their own clubs as you say hence the "big guns " IE SF LMS etc are making their choices as shown recently, however SF is still not in the bag anywhere as we are still talking to him but he will make his shout shortly as to where his future lies however if Wigan offered him a lump of a contract with the guys coming in next term who would not want to stay at wigan ??
As for LMS we made him a massive offer and he wanted to be involved in the club as it starts its life at the new stadia and to be part of the rebuilding of the club again, also his personal terms he recieved are handsome to say the least along with a relocation to die for ...
plenty will happen yet
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| Quote ="EXPRO"Unusually this year there is little movement and what movement there is attracts interest from everyone including their own clubs as you say hence the "big guns " IE SF LMS etc are making their choices as shown recently, however SF is still not in the bag anywhere as we are still talking to him but he will make his shout shortly as to where his future lies however if Wigan offered him a lump of a contract with the guys coming in next term who would not want to stay at wigan ??
As for LMS we made him a massive offer and he wanted to be involved in the club as it starts its life at the new stadia and to be part of the rebuilding of the club again, also his personal terms he recieved are handsome to say the least along with a relocation to die for ...
plenty will happen yet'"
Nobody now believes a word you post on here
I guess you will say Robbie Paul is signing tomorrow, or Brain Smith will be coach by next week and Rovers will be evicted from Poorhouse Lane, city will move there and we will rip the seats out of the east stand and make it standing terraced.
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| Quote ="EXPRO"look back apart from defensive situations recently when have i attacked anyone on here personally... shall we try never.. go back on post mate and dont try to derail todays postings as well ok
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And here he jumps in again
Like I say, practice what you preach and stop derailing threads yourself
Make up a few more rumours for the thread, that sort of thing
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As for LMS we made him a massive offer and he wanted to be involved in the club as it starts its life at the new stadia and to be part of the rebuilding of the club again, also his personal terms he recieved are handsome to say the least along with a relocation to die for ...
plenty will happen yet'"
Not only do you know the inner working of FC, but also Saints and Quins . How do you get the time to come on here?
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| Quote ="Hull Kingston Convicts"Nobody now believes a word you post on here
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and your opinion means what to me??
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| Quote ="Chris28"Not only do you know the inner working of FC, but also Saints and Quins
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